No Idea Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 Just a quick thought on the 10 point deduction that Truro Reserves have also received following the senior side entering administration. On the Peninsula League forum it states something along the lines that the league were made clear of their obligation from the powers above (assuming CCFA or even FA). Does this mean that this is standard practice? For example when say Portsmouth were in administration did every playing side within the club receive a 10 point deduction such as the reserves, the U18s etc? I was under the impression that it was only the senior side that received the penalty? Does anybody have any definitive knowledge on this? And can the Peninsula League representatives provide evidence of what was imposed from the powers above? One last thought...if the reserves are being punished under the umbrella of being associated to Truro City, then surely all sides playing under the Truro City name should receive the same fate. Have the Ladies side been deducted 10 points? And have god for bid the junior sides been deducted 10 points?
Argyle Fan Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 It's the whole club that is in administration, not just the 'senior side' or the reserves. I'm pretty sure that the 10 point deduction is imposed by the FA & the League has no choice in the matter.
Dave Deacon Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 It's a good point though - did all the Portsmouth teams receive deductions or is it only those teams that play in FA controlled competitions. So for example if Truro's reserves were still in the JCCL - would there have been a reduction?
Happy WAG Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 These were exactly my thoughts... I'm not aware that this happened with Southampton either.
Ian Gregory Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 I can't answer for any other league, but the SWPL is governed by the FA not the CCFA.The SWPL rules state that any club going into administration shall be deducted 10 points. There is no such rule in the JCCL or lower leagues, which are governed by the CCFA. As for what has happened in other administrations I can't answer, but be assured that the SWPL Secretary has sought guidance from the FA before imposing the deduction. I hope that this goes some way to answering the query.
derek martyn Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 You can't blame the CCFA for this. Sadly TC are just going to have to take their medicine, regardless of who administers it.
No Idea Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Posted September 9, 2012 Nobody is blaming the CCFA... Just curious to how it works cause as others above have mentioned they don't remember this happening with other clubs.
NORTH DEVON DWELLER Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 The best place to get an official answer from Phil Hiscox is on the forum on the SWPL Website. Phil does not use this forum so if your looking for an answer that's the place to start.
Dave Deacon Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 I think Ian, as a director of the SWPL, has probably answered as good as anyone regarding the local position. However I'm sure Phil won't mind me placing his post from the SWPL Forum on here which further clarifies things:- "Just a clarification on this - As the SWP is a "National League" (Pyramid) we have to affiliate to the FA in London and all pyramid leagues have the same standardised set of rules. These state a 10 point deduction and the guidance from the FA was very clear that it applies as the "club" is in adminstration not the "team" If we were a non pyramid league our rules would be different, and that would also explain why a Portsmouth reserves playing in a reserve league would not get the same deduction, indeed if Truro were in the Combination league they would not get the deduction. However we benefit in many ways by being a pyramid league and you can't pick and choose which bits of that you like or dislike, as such the rule about points deduction has to be in our rules to be sanctioned, and as league secretary I had no choice but to act on the breach of rule which is very clear cut. PH"
No Idea Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Posted September 9, 2012 Thank you for the detailed answer that's provided clarification... There's no arguing with that.
Happy WAG Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 Although it complies with the rules and there's no arguing it... It doesn't stop us lamenting how rubbish it feels.
Sam Boston Posted September 11, 2012 Report Posted September 11, 2012 It won't affect the youth teams as TCYFC are a separate entity from Truro City
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