Mike Odgers Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Falmouth Town Away to Launceston in the Cornwall Charity Cup to be played by 31/10/07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Postie Pidge Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Mike you beat me to it! Full draw: Bodmin Town vs Callington Town Launceston vs Falmouth Town Liskeard Athletic vs Penryn Athletic Millbrook vs St Austell Newquay vs Torpoint Athletic Porthleven vs Camelford Saltash United vs St Blazey Wadebridge Town vs Penzance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpoint Imp Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 A chance for a pint on your patch at last Judge :clapper: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Thought I would let you do the full draw reading from your official CCFA notification. So it appears Truro City not entering and replaced by Camelford compared to last season. A bit unfortunate on the new SWPLDiv.1 West Cornish sides. 7 clubs from SWPL and 9 from SWPL div1West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whuru Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I would have thought that Goonhavern (ex SWL side) would have got the nod ahead of some others especially after all the charity they gave out last season !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no seriously they did win the swl fair play award for 2006/07 and maybe that should have tipped the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Postie Pidge Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Maybe it was a lucky draw to decide who got the place left vacant by Truro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peppermint Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Qiute agree with WHURU that Goonhavern were overlooked both seasons they have been members of the now defunct CSWL and now the County had the chance to give them an invitation they have given it to Camelford! Why Camelford and not say Hayle,Mousehole, Wendron, Dobwalls or Foxhole. Giving Truro City's place to Goonhavern would have solved that problem because they have been in the equivalent league for two years. Perhaps someone from the powers that be could explain the decision. it would be nice to hear the reactions from the new clubs in the SWPL that were overlooked in favour of Camelford. I know the entry is by invitation so were the others invited but declined! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Judge aka RED OR DEAD Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Look forward to it Paul, I'll have to bring my telescope along !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Could it be that the manager of Camelford is involved in the sponsorship of the two main County Cups? :clapper: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Postie Pidge Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 The reason they were overlooked before is because the invitation only competition is open to 16 teams. As there were already the full quota everyone else was ineligible. In the late 90s when Falmouth didn't compete, their place was alternated to an ECPL team (Nanpean) one year and a Combo team (Helston) the other. Goonhavern would be the next best bet but this season they begin on the same par as Foxhole, Camelford, Hayle etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peppermint Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 I know that Goonhavern were not invited before because they already had 16 teams. But surely Goonhavern have been at the higher level for two seasons and would have been the logical choice without having to upset the other five new teams in the Peninsula League. I have a feeling that Dave Deacon's posting gives the clue to the strange decision. If that is true then obviously money talks and not fairness! I would feel agrieved if I was a Goonhavern manager, player or supporter. It would be interesting to hear the views of followers of Mousehole, Hayle, Wendron, Foxhole and Dobwalls or for that matter Camelford! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Could it be that the manager of Camelford is involved in the sponsorship of the two main County Cups? If this was the basis of the decision, then it would be seen to be totally out of order and calls into question the validity of the Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Hambly Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 You are spot on Mr Deacon, Mr Chairman and Peppermint whoever you are. We bribed the County officials to gain entry to this competition. We signed the son of the County secretary to ensure our participation. We even provided the County officials with chicken legs and sausage rolls at our recent pitch opening to cement our grovelling relationship. What twisted little minds you must have? And before some little twit responds with "hit a raw nerve there" no, it's just laughable to think that I would be trying to "pull a few strings" to enter this worthy competition. What do the County make of your inferences? It would be interesting to hear their view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 I resent your statement about twisted minds Reg, and I too would like some indication of how more Senior Clubs than yours were not invited in preference to you. I suspect however that this will not be revealed on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Hambly Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Harry, I resent the inference that the invitation into this competitition was in any way underhand. We, as a club, were suprised and delighted to receive the invite as I am sure any of the other clubs mentioned would have been. To be honest, we had not given this competition a thought and had the invite gone to any of the other clubs we certainly would not have been looking for some sort of hidden agenda. I'm not surprised that no fuss has been made by the other clubs involved. They probably wish us good luck as we would them. What do you mean by a more Senior club as I understand that we will all be competing in SWPL Div. 1 West this season? We were est. in 1893, and were founder members of the SWL and ECPL. Over the last few months we have been pilloried for our invitations into the SWPL, the ECPL and now the Charity Cup. Perhaps we were given the chance because we were the South West Charter Standard Club of the year in 2006, we have donated £1000 to the Sunrise Appeal and £500 to the local rotary club in the last 12 months or, more likely, we were previously in the competition for a number of years. Or perhaps we were drawn from a hat, I don't know. I will say no more on the subject as like most managers I am looking forward to our match on Saturday and prefer to concentrate on my own club's affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 doesnt matter who was put in guna lose 2 port whoever it was get over it :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Postie Pidge Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Camelford weren't founder members of the SWL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Maybe Goonhavern wern't chosen because as the name suggests it is the Charity Cup and they want teams in the competition with at least some supporters to bring in the cash. Who's been to Goonhavern when there have been more players and officials than supporters. Me for one and more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest meatloaf Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 same old camels knowing the right people in the right places. ecpl now charity cup, what next? good luck!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peppermint Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 How dare you make stupid and unfounded accusations Reg Hambly any fair minded football supporter would say that Goonhavern would be the logical choice to be the Charity Cup invitee instead of Truro City. Obviously people are going to ask questions and want some answers! Why are your club invited before Foxhole and Dobwalls for instance who I think finished above you in the League table last season. This is also not taking into account the three Combination League sides from last season. What right have to lord it over the other clubs and especially Goonhavern who achieved CSWL status two seasons ago. One more point I would take the word of a respected football pundit in Postie Pidge in that Camelford were not founder members of the South Western League. Goonhavern should have had the place in the Charity Cup and most FAIR MINDED followers of football would agree. Mr Hambly I resent the fact that according to you I and Mr Chairman and Dave Decon have twisted minds and I back my intelligence and intellect against yours anyday and all I am seeking is fair play and a logical and correct decision. Mr Chairman and Dave Deacon and myself are only asking for some sort of explanation of this baffling decision. Perhaps Meatloaf as the answer but obviously we will probably never know - life is certainly unfair in the world of Cornish football. Why doesn't someone from the powers that be have the guts to come on here and give an answer! I think we might be waiting a long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Camelford joined the SWL in the 1955-56 season and left at the end of the 1962-63 season, never finishing higher than 8th. So they were not an original member of the SWL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Actually Peppermint, I'm not too bothered about having an explanation about the choice. Reg is right, I probably have got a twisted mind. :clapper: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Why not take the Teams from the lower Divisions and lighten the load on the top Teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Lighten what load? The Charity Cup is only four games at most and the fixtures are always fitted in around all the others. And please don't quote Truro's plight of last season when they had a combination of fixture congestion and a dodgy pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 How much will it cost the top Teams to play in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lobb Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Why the bitterness towards Camelford? Surely any angst should be directed at the CCFA in not providing an explaination of their choice of entrant. On the matter of re election to the ECPL Camelford were the only club to make the effort to send us correspondence detailing why they felt we should vote for them.Whenever I've dealt with Reg he has always been staight and I say good luck to any club who are trying to progress.I'm not holding my breath for an explaination from CCFA though!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peppermint Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Yes Dave I too probably have a twisted mind! If that means that I would like all things to be fair for all parties in the football world then probably it means I am twisted! Thanks for the info cornishteddyboy that confirms Postie Pidge's post that Camelford were not founder members of the CSWL. Perhaps we should start a campaign to have Goonhavern put into the draw for the Charity Cup - but on second thoughts why bother because I might as well go and bang my head against a brick wall! Obviously I am being totally naive to expect an explanation about the thinking behind this decision. Just read David Lobb's posting and I don't think anyone was having a go at Camelford but just wanting to know why the logical choice - Goonhavern - was not made. It was Mr Hambly who came onto the Forum and accused everyone of having twisted minds because we dare ask for a simple explanation from the powers that be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Dave,I'm not sure the bitterness is aimed at Camelford,who must be congratulated on their endeavours. The criticism surely is directed at a higher place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Why not take the Teams from the lower Divisions and lighten the load on the top Teams? Couldn't agree more. The SWP Premier teams are eligble to enter the FA Cup and have a real chance of reaching the Senior Cup or Throgmorton Cup final. The SWP Div 1 are precluded from the FA Cup and unlikely to win any of the cups. Devon FA have the right idea, with the Premier Cup limited to SWP Div 1 clubs (and below), with the SWP Premier clubs in the St Lukes, both divisions in the Throgmorton. Cornwall FA should consider something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 The winds of change seem to stop at the Tamar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Hambly Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Dave, Mr Chairman. I apologise for the "twisted minds" comment. After a day spent mainly on football matters, which is a complete labour of love, I came home to find that we were once again the subject of negative comment and with my integrity being called into question, reacted hastily. Peppermint, with statements such as "money talks", "lording it over other clubs," "people asking qestions" I would also like to withdraw my "twisted" comment and replace it with "sad". Camelford are a small club, run by hard working volunteers, and have no illusions about our place in cornish football. We are excited about the new season and looking forward to meeting the people of Mousehole, Wendron, Hayle, Penryn, Goonhavern et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peppermint Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Mr Hambly - perhaps you should read all my postings before making the comment 'sad'. I too have spent some years putting in several hours a day on football administration. I only ask for fair and equitable decisions and surely any fair minded follower of football would wish that. I did not call your integrity into question and I am sure you work very hard for the good of your club and your new facilities are praised by all that visit your ground. Just trying to provoke an explanation from the powers that be! Still we will have to disagree I suppose but good luck to Camelford for the coming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Hambly Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Thank you Peppermint, we shall need it! And thank you Dave Lobb as well for you kind comments. Good luck for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peppermint Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Thanks Reg - I see that you are at Mount Wise on Wednesday 5th September so hopefully I will see you there. I will be pleased to treat you to a drink in the bar sfter the game. Again good luck for the coming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Postie Pidge Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 One more point I would take the word of a respected football pundit in Postie Pidge in that Camelford were not founder members of the South Western League Thanks Peppermint! I've been called many things but never a pundit. It costs £20 to enter a team and it is on invitation, so clubs could decline the invite and allow others the chance to enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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