Deadcert Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Now that the season is mid-way, what are your thoughts now on the joining of the two leagues good/bad idea. I personally feel that it seems a bit hit and miss with teams missing a few weeks between games,and the travel has been an issue, although there does not seem to be a referee shortage as much as it used to. I hope next season helps to iron out a few problems and hopefully all the teams remain members of the league (no clubs folding)
Guest smashing pumpkin Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 since our last game 26th of november and our next game 7th of january that is a 6 week break no game. we were ment to have 1 fixture at start of dec but was postponed . but its a long break . plus look at st just they have only played 6 games all season so far i bet there players are frustrated with lack of games.
footballhater Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 nowhere near enough games, but dont see how that can be resolved for next year without a complete reshuffle of the leagues?
Portreathlegend Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Too many division, so maybe drop division 6
footballhater Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Too many division, so maybe drop division 6 Will they do this though? It would confuse promotion and relegations again.
Midfield Marvel Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 The fixture schedule is a problem again as it is for us every year. Played 8 out of 22 league games so far in over 4 months. That's only 2 games per month, whereas others have played up to 15 games in the prem. Only 1 of the games called off was due to our pitch (yesterday). (
Garry Kay Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Taking a more positive view, I am very happy with the new league. The travelling is no different from when we had two leagues, it's nice to play against new teams, there will be less games crammed into the last few congested weeks of the season and best of all, player movements are restricted which stops some players jumping from one league to the other every time they fail to make the starting line-up
Midfield Marvel Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Agree with all the above points Gary. Like I said, the fixture schedule has been a problem every season, no change now we are in the Trelawny league.
paulo bestiniho Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Everybody talking about lack of league games played however there are a lot of cups this season. We at storm this season have played 5 or 6 cup games as well as our league games. Once teams have got knocked out of the cups league games should run thick and fast. Hopefully some more new teams will apply next year and div 6 will get bigger
Deadcert Posted January 1, 2012 Author Report Posted January 1, 2012 Any one feel that the divisions be compressed into 16 teams in each, and maybe install the same system as higher levels when you have to have a division gap between teams within the same club. Great to see it's been a thoughtful debate with positives+negatives from the posters thanks have a good new year!!!!!
Martin Eddy Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 deadcert. sounds like a good idea about the gap but! there are a lot of clubs with more than one team and it could cause problems with promotion/relegation. it was voted by the the mining club to have 16 team leagues but never got implemented because of the balance of the new committee. could we not have a mix of say the top 2/3 leagues with 14 teams and the rest with 16.this will all depend on clubs folding/ entering next season. there is a worrying trend of clubs going to the wall in the last couple of seasons and long standing clubs stuggling to survive
Deadcert Posted January 1, 2012 Author Report Posted January 1, 2012 One other option would be to dedicate a division just for reserve sides and the others made up of 16 teams. At the moment while things are getting leveled out teams like Helston find their respective teams too far apart west penninsula first team and div 2 for their reserves. No disrespect meant to Helston but I expect they find it difficult to keep players that are on the fringes of the first team playing div 2 awaiting their chance
Martin Eddy Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 with the players they have at their disposal that gap will close very quickly
Kash Posted January 2, 2012 Report Posted January 2, 2012 I think its gona take a few seasons for the leagues to start getting balanced, theres a few leagues with teams running away with it already! I think the number of teams per league is ok, div 6 being the exception but we had been let down by last minuite withdrawals at the start of the season, the league have helped fill the fixture gap by introducing a cup competition. I think everything new has teething problems but I think its being run well in its 1st season!
Guest smashing pumpkin Posted January 2, 2012 Report Posted January 2, 2012 does anybody know what it cost to enter a new team? does the trelawney league charge or do you just have to pay insurance and pitches? with all the teams that have folded last season and this season, if there was a charge why dont the league offer free admission to to join for your 1st season , then that might attract more teams to apply to join. because diviosn 6 only has a handfull of teams
Pendeener Posted January 2, 2012 Report Posted January 2, 2012 i think the league is a farce,was a great idea but like it has been reported that st just reserves have played just 6 league games all season,there are 89 teams in the league that would make simple maths of 4 leagues of 18 and 1 of 17,barring any applications.it has to be sorted,but no doubt the runnings of the league will be kept a secret,or silly excuses like travel would come into it,which is a bug bare of mine as if a team say sennen say going to st keverne is a long journey then dont enter the league(those clubs are just examples)and in responce to smashing pumpkin i dont think that would work as u would get a lot of 1 season wonders,which i think wouldnt be healthy for the future :ninja:
Jamie C Posted January 2, 2012 Report Posted January 2, 2012 Having played on the isles of scilly travelling from carharrack to st.day is a long way for me now . i didnt start the league but ive now played 5 games and i feel that the leagues have an in-balance with sides of a good standard such as just to pick a side constantine in a lower league than there team sheet would play in. however this is football and it gives teams in a position to build a squad and match these sides and move up the ladder. i like the new set up of fewer teams in the league as this gives sides more time to get games in and also with the 5 cups teams enter in fixture congestion doesnt seem a huge problem to many teams. also it now gives the league an oppurtunity to maybe start a playoff system if they use the league like a proper tier system. so what do people think about maybe a top place goes up or top 2 .. then maybe either 2nd 3rd 4th 5th play off ??
Pendeener Posted January 2, 2012 Report Posted January 2, 2012 yeah but jamie c the leagues shouldnt be that in balanced,its not like the league formed overnight.if as you say constantine have a good team so be it but the main thing i believe is a lack of games and about 300 cups to play in,as teams get knocked out of the cups yeah more games will be played but at what rate 3 a week,and if u happen then to be away for all 3 games yeah i concede expence does play a major factor.oh and i agree carharrack to st day,that is a long way lol :ninja:
Jamie C Posted January 2, 2012 Report Posted January 2, 2012 i still dont think the combo league should be a league the standard up there has dropped so badly it needs to be reassessed. i know what ur saying about the cups there are far far far to many in the leagues as a whole. i was just using constantine as an example. but then next season u know it all chages with people going places and managers moving. its the same sh*t every year. the league dont have to be finished by may ?? if thats right then there is a long time to play these games. so dont start panicing yet. :closedeyes:
Deadcert Posted January 2, 2012 Author Report Posted January 2, 2012 I think you are right jamie that the standard of the combination has dropped but I think this is mainly down to the fact that pennisula premier is like the old swl west/east are like the old combo with the trelawney league staying as the top junior league and the combo being the odd one out as it has stayed stationary for too long. Constantine are doing well but as soon as the villiagers want locals inthe side it will be down the pan again i'm afraid. Also take a look at the teams going up from junior football they all seem to have held their own in recent seasons that why I feel that you gain promotion you must take it or be relegated to allow a team that does want to progress a chance and do away with applying for promotion as it will be done on your league position afterall you don't apply to be relegated do you?
Martin Eddy Posted January 2, 2012 Report Posted January 2, 2012 the reason there are so many cups is because they are inherited from the old leagues. mining,fal/hel and west penwith leagues. what would you have done just throw away all that history(too many cups) in fairness to the league they had a lot of deciding to do and were let down by the late withdrawals but, i feel they should have had a contingency plan as history would have told them that in the last few years we have had a few late withdrawals. still dambed if you do and dambed if you don't :drink:
Pendeener Posted January 2, 2012 Report Posted January 2, 2012 yea i do sorrta agree postman pat but sometimes things have to move on,the cups are old and come with history but its just too much,the old west penwith league with the hannaford cup nicolas cup etc came with history but they have soon gone.i wonder how many people on this forum remember them.i just think the leagues should of thought about it a bit more as it wasnt as tho they didnt know about all the cups :ninja:
Martin Eddy Posted January 2, 2012 Report Posted January 2, 2012 pendeener this is cornwall we stay in the past :thumbsup:
Pitty Posted January 2, 2012 Report Posted January 2, 2012 The trelawny league was always going to have a few teething problems in its inaugural season. Personally I feel it has been a step in the right direction. The league was complicated by late withdrawals following the agm and with hindsight I am sure we would now have no div 6 and the leagues would (at the beginning of the season) have a constitution of 16. This I'm sure will be addressed at this years agm. The positives I think are as follows 1. Good competitive divisions. Lots of close matches especially in the divisions who finished in the top half last year and were amalgamated together. 2. Amalgamating the leagues has now prevented players from signing for two junior clubs 3. Very few evening games at the start of the season (the weather may yet throw a spanner in the works come April!!!) 4. A very understanding committee who have allowed clubs time to sort any issues out they may have 5. Full use of fafulltime time website for fixtures, results & players who participated in the match. Forms available to download online. Those are the positives. A few things that might require addressing 1. Number of teams in each league. Not due to the fact teams want more games but as has occurred this year smaller divisions (14) has had a bigger impact if a team has been forced to withdraw reducing a smaller league further. 2. E-mail team sheets and not have to obtain signatures from the ref, opossing manager and uncle Tom cobbled as well!!!! The team that is on the team sheet is displayed on the fafulltime website. If a club feels a player may not be correct they can lodge a complaint then. 3. Teams are complaining of lack of games. Two cup competitions and the junior cup for the senior junior side is ample. Maybe another cup for teams that do not compete in the junior cup could help 4. Would a play off system for the 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th team for 1 promotion place make things interesting!!! That is only 2 extra games for a side and the league could have a finals day. On the comments on the combination league I disagree with the statement that it is a poor league. Yes their are good sides and now that promotion is available to the top 4 placed sides in the premier (max 2 go up). Junior sides promoted tend to always do quite well however the trick is to sustain it into the 2nd 3rd and 4th season. Pendeen were excellent last year but are finding things tougher this season. Portreath won the junior cup and only spent 2 seasons there. Of the other clubs promoted in the last 8 years my club (holmans) Troon, st day & Porthleven are all hovering at the lower end of the table. Athletic are doing well in their 1st season but next year will be the test. The trelawny league is gr8 for west Cornwall and I'm sure as it beds in the divisions will become more and more competitive. The problems people have mentioned are pretty much the same associated with the previous mining and fhfl and they still hadn't resolved some of the niggles after over 50 years!!!
Pendeener Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 pitty thats right after 50 years nothing has moved on,the same mistakes,im a betting man and i bet in 5 years the running of this league will still be a farce.if im honest i hope im wrong but i wont be,and as postman pat clearly states we are cornwall and thats where we stay. :ninja:
Dan Inch Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I have enjoyed the league in its new format, there are still some issues as there always will be, my main issue (and this goes back to the old league format as well) is transfers in the off season, in my opinion I believe a player should be signed to a club until a transfer is done, not a free for all in the close season. This may stop managers/ players leaving as a group and give the teams a better chance of building year upon year rather than folding.
Pendeener Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 fdo,i totally agree with u mate,if only if it was that easy though. :ninja:
Pendeener Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 or fdo do u think a transfer window would work,complicated and not a massive fan of it but could it?????? :ninja:
Tine boy Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 The Tine is quality Jarvo has come in a done a great job for the club. Lets hope they treat him well so he stays long term and takes us further up and up the leagues. We gt got good players here includer Dinge Jeweller mInto and the quality youngsters in Ben Allen and Dan Jarvis. I fink Dinge will go back Penryn somtime though as he misses it there but were appy to have him has long as he here. Happy New Year up the Tine.
Fatso Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 How many teams come down from Combo to the Trelawney league, and vice versa? Perhaps the use of this promotion/relegation set-up is the best way to even out the quality throughout all the leagues. If the Trelawney Prem teams at the top are stronger then only having one go up per season is a slow method of ironing things out. I like the idea of signing for a club until transfered but think not much would change, as players would still play friendlies for a number of teams in pre-season; It keeps them fit and is an ego boost that some of them need.
Pitty Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 How many teams come down from Combo to the Trelawney league, and vice versa? Perhaps the use of this promotion/relegation set-up is the best way to even out the quality throughout all the leagues. If the Trelawney Prem teams at the top are stronger then only having one go up per season is a slow method of ironing things out. I like the idea of signing for a club until transfered but think not much would change, as players would still play friendlies for a number of teams in pre-season; It keeps them fit and is an ego boost that some of them need. 2 out of the top 4 in the Trelawny League can go into the Combination League providing they meet the neccesary criteria to stage senior football and do not have a side already in the league (Illogan)A max of 2 can be relegated from the combination. The combination league is currently operating with one team less then last year (19) following Helstons promotion to the SWPL & Ludgvan were relegated to the Trelawny League. Clubs who wish to be considered for promotion if they finish in the top 4 need to apply in writing to the Combination League and inform the Trelawny League of their intention. I'm pretty sure the application deadline has passed or is very close. Only Falmouth Athletic (3 applied) who applied for promotion last year finished in the required league position to be eligible for promotion (Goonhavern & Mousehole finished outside of the top 3 positions of their respective leagues)
Guest smashing pumpkin Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 has any team from the trelawny prem applied for combo for next season? im sure with the squad goonhavern have they would do a good job in combo with players like joe carlyon , ian gosling, sam waters etc .
Martin Eddy Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 pitty am i right in saying that other leagues are eligable to apply for promotion to the combo, or move across from east cornwall
Deadcert Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Posted January 4, 2012 I feel that they need to look at the criteria for Combo football and concentrate on strengthening the league. Afterall it is the very bottom rung of the ladder to senior football. Most of the grounds within the league dont meet the criteria so why make other teams who have got a promotion place. Pitty how many times has Blaythornes being roped off on all 4 sides of the pitch? (as an example,) where are Perranwells dugouts? Pitch to be of a suitable standard, St Ives is like tellytubby land. At the very least a team who have gained promotion should be given a season to reach a "reasonable" standard required. And not a few weeks leading up to the combo agm.
Pitty Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 I feel that they need to look at the criteria for Combo football and concentrate on strengthening the league. Afterall it is the very bottom rung of the ladder to senior football. Most of the grounds within the league dont meet the criteria so why make other teams who have got a promotion place. Pitty how many times has Blaythornes being roped off on all 4 sides of the pitch? (as an example,) where are Perranwells dugouts? Pitch to be of a suitable standard, St Ives is like tellytubby land. At the very least a team who have gained promotion should be given a season to reach a "reasonable" standard required. And not a few weeks leading up to the combo agm. Deadcert having played both Combo & FHFL/Trelawny/Mining their is a definite difference in the standards of grounds compared to the junior leagues. Yes some of the Combo grounds are not to the same quality as Falmouth. Penryn Newquay & Porthleven and I unfortunatley concur that we (Holmans) have failed to encircle our ground with a rope on all 4 sides due to a lack of space on the dugout side however away fans always duck under the rope that cordons that side of the ground off the scallywags!!!! Blaythorne for our 2nd team who compete in the Trelawny Div 3 would be regarded as one of the more pleasurable venues in the entire league for opposing teams to visit hence where sides feel the likes of St Day, Holmans, St Ives & Troon are regarded as the poorer grounds in the combo in the Junior leagues they would be felt to be in the better half hence the good policy the combo league has in place for ground grading . Ted I think a side from the Duchy Premier can applyto the combo providing they meet the same criteria as the Trelawny premier however I think the fountain of all knowlege (John Mead) may be able to answer the question with a definitive answer Sides that apply for the Combo do not have a mere few weeks to bring their ground up to the required standard as the application date is in January to allow for ground grading and the AGM is in August (8 months) Iknow that Fal Ath were asked to address few issues the league had and to their credit they rectified it and are now enjoying senior football
kempy Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 I feel that they need to look at the criteria for Combo football and concentrate on strengthening the league. Afterall it is the very bottom rung of the ladder to senior football. Most of the grounds within the league dont meet the criteria so why make other teams who have got a promotion place. Pitty how many times has Blaythornes being roped off on all 4 sides of the pitch? (as an example,) where are Perranwells dugouts? Pitch to be of a suitable standard, St Ives is like tellytubby land. At the very least a team who have gained promotion should be given a season to reach a "reasonable" standard required. And not a few weeks leading up to the combo agm. Our dug outs ain't needed as if we had a couple of subs they would be found on the swings! :c:
Pitty Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 I feel that they need to look at the criteria for Combo football and concentrate on strengthening the league. Afterall it is the very bottom rung of the ladder to senior football. Most of the grounds within the league dont meet the criteria so why make other teams who have got a promotion place. Pitty how many times has Blaythornes being roped off on all 4 sides of the pitch? (as an example,) where are Perranwells dugouts? Pitch to be of a suitable standard, St Ives is like tellytubby land. At the very least a team who have gained promotion should be given a season to reach a "reasonable" standard required. And not a few weeks leading up to the combo agm. Our dug outs ain't needed as if we had a couple of subs they would be found on the swings! I hear swinging is rife at Perranwell Dave!! ;)
Deadcert Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Posted January 4, 2012 I dont know how long Falmouth Ath had to meet the criteria and yes whoever is down there should be applauded for what they have acheived both on/off the field. As for your post above I can assure you that if you apply in January you will hear "nothing" as the league awaits to find out IF you hold a promotion place in the first instance (End of May) Then you have to await a ground inspection,then await the "Findings" Then you get a short period to meet the criteria you are lacking. Then you await the final ground inspection and a decision "made" by the persons inspecting to reach the combo league committee (This is without the negative responses from other locals who do not want you to progress) Then comes the AGM but hang on I missed the meeting prior to the AGM when member clubs have a "discussion" to ascertain whether they want you in their league (With many Members putting in rubbish comments) by this time you will know the outcome of the AGM and your promotion bid. But to be fair to the league they do need time to work out fixtures ect so I,m afraid that your 8 months does,nt exist,( I have been through this with 3 clubs.) I don,t actually think you were at Holmans when they applied? But my real jibe is that you cant expect junior clubs to meet criteria that your members are not adhering to themselves. Why not give in writing what the criteria should be to existing members, and give them 1 season to bring their grounds up to standard or they can no longer continue at senior level IF holmans were about to be relegated would you attend a meeting and bring up every reason you could why a team should NOT be promoted in a bid to save your club?
Deadcert Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Posted January 4, 2012 Kempy, Got no problem with any clubs, also got no problem with the lowest level of senior football being played anywhere with reasonable pitch and facilities. But if you got a great pitch with excellent facilities and clubhouse, and a useless team why should that club be in a league too high for their standard, when you could have a club that has a mudbath for a pitch, luke warm showers and a pub 3 miles away but play a good standard of football. afterall first and foremost we want good football. You of all people would want a 1 nil win against a top side rather than a 10 nil win against a poor side!
Pitty Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 I dont know how long Falmouth Ath had to meet the criteria and yes whoever is down there should be applauded for what they have acheived both on/off the field. As for your post above I can assure you that if you apply in January you will hear "nothing" as the league awaits to find out IF you hold a promotion place in the first instance (End of May) Then you have to await a ground inspection,then await the "Findings" Then you get a short period to meet the criteria you are lacking. Then you await the final ground inspection and a decision "made" by the persons inspecting to reach the combo league committee (This is without the negative responses from other locals who do not want you to progress) Then comes the AGM but hang on I missed the meeting prior to the AGM when member clubs have a "discussion" to ascertain whether they want you in their league (With many Members putting in rubbish comments) by this time you will know the outcome of the AGM and your promotion bid. But to be fair to the league they do need time to work out fixtures ect so I,m afraid that your 8 months does,nt exist,( I have been through this with 3 clubs.) I don,t actually think you were at Holmans when they applied? But my real jibe is that you cant expect junior clubs to meet criteria that your members are not adhering to themselves. Why not give in writing what the criteria should be to existing members, and give them 1 season to bring their grounds up to standard or they can no longer continue at senior level IF holmans were about to be relegated would you attend a meeting and bring up every reason you could why a team should NOT be promoted in a bid to save your club? Deadcert clearly this is an emotive subject for you and I would be interested to know which clubs you failed to get into the league with and what facilities they had compared to current members who you feel are not up to the required standards. Their is not a system in place to inspect every members ground every year and i agree maybe it should be put forward that their should be with a set period of time (12 months) to put any shortcomings right but i think your real gripe is being denied a place in the league through a lack of votes I've been at Holmans for 16 years however have only been involved behind the scenes for the last 4 in my secretary/manager role. I do know that in the dark ages ( a few years ago!!!) clubs voted on who to allow into the league and we ourselves in the early noughties failed to gain promotion even being an ex combination league club (relegated in 88) and having a league winning side on at least 2 unsuccessful applications.....times have changed and the "old boys network" as some saw it doesn't exist anymore. The clubs no longer vote in or out members and if a club meets the criteria they have a good chance of being admitted as long as two other clubs in the top 4 who have applied are not felt to have a better application. I was present at the meeting before this years AGM and the one two months previously and i'm sure it is no secret some member clubs voiced concerns over some of the aspects of Fal Athletics application however the league commitee asked the club to address those concerns and they did so hence the reason Dracena Avenue is a venue for Combination League football this season. The voting process has gone and I can think of a couple of successfull clubs at the time of the application that were denied (ie carharrack) however Cornish Football has moved on at a tremendous pace from the CCFA through to the leagues over the last 10 years and I'm sure decisions that were historically made still grate however time has moved on. Yes you ou are right that I would argue a case to try and retain my beloved clubs senior status as im proud to be associated with my hometown club however any discussion i would have would in the end be futile if we were in the bottom 2 and 2 sides in the junior league would be eligible to replace us
Deadcert Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Posted January 4, 2012 Hi Pitty I think that you are very honest with your opinions,Recent years have changed and I was at the meeting prior to the Agm this year and listened to some of the comments made by other clubs regarding Falmouth Ath. It in no way effects my club as to whether Falmouth got promoted or not as we are not that close in proximity. However with the secretaries from clubs close to Falmouth Ath making their opinions well and truly known with one actually providing photos of goal mouths of Falmouths pitch at the end of the season, and the other taking over the meeting, i felt that I personally would support this team just because of the attitudes of clubs afraid that they may entice some of their players away, this is going back to the darkages. As for your last paragraph. Anyone within a club like yourself who shows loyalty would do everything possible to help their own club. I can rmember a Fal/HEl meeting when a chap from Praze admitted to falsifying a teamsheet, and would take the punishment himself rather than his club get in trouble,if at that meeting the only people that could vote against Praze were the ones that had NEVER changed/falsified a teamsheet no votes would have come in,Praze were thrown out the league thanks to the comments of an individual who's club has been deducted points on many occasions for the same reasons.
Martin Eddy Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 deadcert i was at that meeting at wendron and it left a bad taste in my mouth
Pitty Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 How many teams come down from Combo to the Trelawney league, and vice versa? Perhaps the use of this promotion/relegation set-up is the best way to even out the quality throughout all the leagues. If the Trelawney Prem teams at the top are stronger then only having one go up per season is a slow method of ironing things out. I like the idea of signing for a club until transfered but think not much would change, as players would still play friendlies for a number of teams in pre-season; It keeps them fit and is an ego boost that some of them need. 2 out of the top 4 in the Trelawny League can go into the Combination League providing they meet the neccesary criteria to stage senior football and do not have a side already in the league (Illogan)A max of 2 can be relegated from the combination. The combination league is currently operating with one team less then last year (19) following Helstons promotion to the SWPL & Ludgvan were relegated to the Trelawny League. Clubs who wish to be considered for promotion if they finish in the top 4 need to apply in writing to the Combination League and inform the Trelawny League of their intention. I'm pretty sure the application deadline has passed or is very close. Only Falmouth Athletic (3 applied) who applied for promotion last year finished in the required league position to be eligible for promotion (Goonhavern & Mousehole finished outside of the top 3 positions of their respective leagues) To clarify the application process for the Combination League taken from the rulebook 1. Any clubs seeking promotion must apply to their own league by January 7th of the current season 2. Initial ground grading by the clubs OWN LEAGUE to be completed by Feb 7th 3. Feeder League to recommend clubs who they feel meet criteria by 14th Feb 4. Clubs must ahve applied in writing to the combination league by 14th Feb enclosing a £25 fee 5. Ground inspection carried out by combination league by 14th March 6. Feeder League informed by Combination League clubs which have met criteria 7. All or any improvements/work requierd to be carried out to secure promotion completed, inspected and passed by 31st May Ground Grading - Pitches & Facilities 1. The ground must give an overall appearance and impression of being able to stage football at senior level 2. All pitches marked in accordance with current FA regulations in regards to dimensions and marking compounds 3. The club must either: i) Own the Freehold of ground ii) Have the ground on a leasehold agreement or iii) possess an acceptable licence for use of the ground 4. The club is responsible for ensuring proper maintenance of the playing service and the general maintenance of the ground 5. All four sides of the pitch should be suitably enclosed to limit spectator access to the pitch. 6. Seperate changing rooms for teams and match officials 7. Showering facilities must be available for teams and match officials 8. Male and Female toilets available for players match officials and spectators 9. Trainer Boxes Dug outs to seat 8 persons with marked technical areas must be provided for both teams to accomadate Manager/Coaches/1st Aiders and subs 10. A stretcher and comprehensive first Aid kit must be available for both players and spectators 11. All clubs shall have a qualified first aider in attendance at all matches And thats it!!! Tick all the boxes and the league will be happy...phew tired with all that typing off for a lie down now hope that has made things clearer for everyone
crystal hood Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 I have enjoyed the league in its new format, there are still some issues as there always will be, my main issue (and this goes back to the old league format as well) is transfers in the off season, in my opinion I believe a player should be signed to a club until a transfer is done, not a free for all in the close season. This may stop managers/ players leaving as a group and give the teams a better chance of building year upon year rather than folding. I fully agree with you on this matter FDO and if it was proposed as a rule change at the Trelawney League AGM, Pendeen Rovers would have no objection to seconding it.
Medium Steak Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 has any team from the trelawny prem applied for combo for next season? im sure with the squad goonhavern have they would do a good job in combo with players like joe carlyon , ian gosling, sam waters etc . Tell me thats a joke?
Guest smashing pumpkin Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 has any team from the trelawny prem applied for combo for next season? im sure with the squad goonhavern have they would do a good job in combo with players like joe carlyon , ian gosling, sam waters etc . Tell me thats a joke? no i was'nt joking , why do you want to here a joke?
Medium Steak Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 has any team from the trelawny prem applied for combo for next season? im sure with the squad goonhavern have they would do a good job in combo with players like joe carlyon , ian gosling, sam waters etc . Tell me thats a joke? no i was'nt joking , why do you want to here a joke? No, one is enough for today thanks
Dan Inch Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 I have no objection to a player playing in a friendly for another club in pre season (as long as it doesn't fall on the same day as our game) and then if they feel they want to leave then a transfer is done, the annoying thing is when you think you have the same squad and begin planning and then players can walk away, its then a race to find players to field a team, I believe this is a reason many teams have folded or have been very successful one year and poor the next. How can this be put forward as a league rule change? I'd happily put it forward.
crystal hood Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 I have no objection to a player playing in a friendly for another club in pre season (as long as it doesn't fall on the same day as our game) and then if they feel they want to leave then a transfer is done, the annoying thing is when you think you have the same squad and begin planning and then players can walk away, its then a race to find players to field a team, I believe this is a reason many teams have folded or have been very successful one year and poor the next. How can this be put forward as a league rule change? I'd happily put it forward. I believe a letter has to put into the trelawney league from a club within it proposing the rule change and a letter from a different club seconding it, as I have said if a club would like to propose we, Pendeen Rovers would second the rule change and then it would go before all clubs to vote on at the AGM. Are you with a club?
Nelly Furtado Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 With regards to the rule concerning players' registration, it isn't a Trelawny league rule, it is a FA rule. Not something that can be altered as far as I am aware
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