Guest Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 ECPL Fixtures Premier Division Elburton Villa 8 St Stephens Borough 0 Launceston v Plymouth Parkway (Postponed) Morwenstow v Bude Town (Postponed) Saltash United v Bere Alston United (Postponed) St Dominick 1 Tavistock 3 Sticker 2 Probus 2 Torpoint Athletic v Lanreath (Postponed) Wadebridge Town 0 Bodmin Town 0 Division One Holsworthy v Kilkhampton (Piostponed) Millbrook v Edgcumbe (Posponed) Nanpean Rovers 0 Roche 1 Plymstock United 3 Polperro 3 St Blazey v Biscovey (Postponed) St Teath v Camelford (Postponed)
DanBlazey Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 I'm off to Morwenstow v Bude tomorrow. Please advise if this is likely to be postponed. Many thanks.
Nemesis Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 I'm off to Morwenstow v Bude tomorrow. I really don't get you Dan. Your clubs reserves have a local derby and you go elsewhere !
jayjay21 Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 I'm off to Morwenstow v Bude tomorrow. Please advise if this is likely to be postponed. Many thanks. looking very doubtful dan
jayjay21 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 morwenstow v bude is off happy new year to you all
afcbandy Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Wadebridge Town v Bodmin Town is ON, Kick off 2.30pm
Dave Deacon Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Sticker 2-2 Probus Entertaining contest which ended with Martin Giles being red carded for over zealous pushing away of Probus player/manager and sub Cgris Davey! A decision that obviously didn't please Sticker manager Phil Dingle too much when overheard to say :"if we give that referee more than two it'll be disgusting" or words similar!
razor61 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Sticker 2-2 Probus Entertaining contest which ended with Martin Giles being red carded for over zealous pushing away of Probus player/manager and sub Cgris Davey! A decision that obviously didn't please Sticker manager Phil Dingle too much when overheard to say :"if we give that referee more than two it'll be disgusting" or words similar! Dave he was the worst referee I have seen, he just didn't get control from the first robust tackle early in the first half. The most bizarre decision he made was when one of our strikers was fouled in the back in the penalty area near the end. He blew his whistle for what was a foul but then decided it was a drop ball.telling the fouled player to just pass the ball back to the keeper when it should have obviously been a penalty! He has cost us two valuable points! He was an absolute joke but not funny. As for the red card for Martin Giles he didn't even see the incident as he was facing the other way. If he had been watching he would have seen Chris Davey almost strangling Martin!
Dave Deacon Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 This is where being a neutral spectator and a club official directly connected varies. As the former, his lack of stamping down on any early tackles helped the game as a spectacle. It's not often these days you see a good old-fashioned blood and thunder contest with tackles like some this afternoon. Indeed many of them in the first half would have been dealt with differently by many referees, but this one didn't and one thing in his favour - he was the same for both sides! With regards to the incidents mentioned - did he blow for the alleged foul, or because he was concerned about the player who went down injured? As for the red card, yes - Chris Davey probably stood his ground against Martin Giles a little too much, but there again Giles should know better then push away a player in the fashion he did - raised arms these days mean a red card don't they? As for how you mark the referee - is it going to be two out of how many - 10? And if so, will that require a report going in as well? It would be interesting to read how the low marking is justified compared to some of the other referees' performances witnessed each week!
THE LYNX AFFECT Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 its out of a 100 dave these days :thumbsup:
Dave Deacon Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Blimey 2 then is low! Is Phil aware its a 100 too? :blink:
Dave Deacon Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Premier Division : League Table Torpoint Athletic 16 13 3 0 66 19 +47 42 Sticker 18 13 1 4 69 28 +41 40 Plymouth Parkway 12 10 1 1 55 22 +33 31 Saltash United 17 10 1 6 41 24 +17 31 Launceston 17 9 3 5 50 34 +16 30 Bude Town 14 8 2 4 36 25 +11 26 Elburton Villa 14 8 1 5 24 23 +1 25 Tavistock 13 7 2 4 27 20 +7 23 St Dominick 15 6 3 6 28 31 -3 21 Morwenstow 13 5 2 6 28 27 +1 17 Bere Alston United 13 4 0 9 38 38 +0 12 Wadebridge Town 18 3 3 12 23 47 -24 12 Bodmin Town 13 3 1 9 20 57 -37 10 Lanreath 15 3 1 11 11 49 -38 10 Probus 11 2 2 7 24 32 -8 8 St Stephens Borough 17 0 2 15 15 79 -64 2
Solly Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 There was a war at st Dominic today with a good turnout on the crowd front. Also a good result for us Tavy lads! Thought we deserved it and both sides will say the other deserved more cards but I think the ref actually did well to keep all but one of the players on the pitch considering some of the hard tackles, but both sides got on with it and we got the points!! Scorers St Dom - Tom Hall. Tavistock - Steve Greenway, Kevin Hatch and Chris Holt.
CoachKT Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Sticker 2-2 Probus Entertaining contest which ended with Martin Giles being red carded for over zealous pushing away of Probus player/manager and sub Cgris Davey! A decision that obviously didn't please Sticker manager Phil Dingle too much when overheard to say :"if we give that referee more than two it'll be disgusting" or words similar! Dave he was the worst referee I have seen, he just didn't get control from the first robust tackle early in the first half. The most bizarre decision he made was when one of our strikers was fouled in the back in the penalty area near the end. He blew his whistle for what was a foul but then decided it was a drop ball.telling the fouled player to just pass the ball back to the keeper when it should have obviously been a penalty! He has cost us two valuable points! He was an absolute joke but not funny. As for the red card for Martin Giles he didn't even see the incident as he was facing the other way. If he had been watching he would have seen Chris Davey almost strangling Martin! Razor61, We had the same ref when we played at Probus and would have given him less than TWO if we'd been allowed to...(You have to give so many points for wearing black apparently).....worst ref I've ever come across We had an incident in our game when we had a shot from the edge of the penalty area that the Probus centre half blatently handled on the line which even our keeper and two supporters behind the other goal appealed for it was that obvious....only person who claimed he didn't see it was the ref....who was actually right in line with it and must have had his eyes shut to have missed it....when asked he said that he wasn't 100% sure (what????) and that had he given a penalty he would of had to send off the centre half and wanted to keep eleven players on the pitch!!!!!.....After the game, which we lost 2-1, the ref was sat chatting merrily and having a pint with the Probus manager. Not gonna open a can of worms but that might explain why you had some dodgy decisions go against you today???
razor61 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 This is where being a neutral spectator and a club official directly connected varies. As the former, his lack of stamping down on any early tackles helped the game as a spectacle. It's not often these days you see a good old-fashioned blood and thunder contest with tackles like some this afternoon. Indeed many of them in the first half would have been dealt with differently by many referees, but this one didn't and one thing in his favour - he was the same for both sides! With regards to the incidents mentioned - did he blow for the alleged foul, or because he was concerned about the player who went down injured? As for the red card, yes - Chris Davey probably stood his ground against Martin Giles a little too much, but there again Giles should know better then push away a player in the fashion he did - raised arms these days mean a red card don't they? As for how you mark the referee - is it going to be two out of how many - 10? And if so, will that require a report going in as well? It would be interesting to read how the low marking is justified compared to some of the other referees' performances witnessed each week! Dave obviously I am biased to-wards Sticker but we always know we are in for a hard game against Probus but I have to disagree about the ref in one aspect re the robust tackling as in the first half it was 4-5 to Probus and one to Sticker where our skipper was trying to address the balance, you cant expect us to just roll over when those tackles are going in. Andrew Butler was nearly cut in half twice and it was only his nifty footwork that got him out of the way. You only have to see how one-sided the tackles were when 4 Probus players were booked and no Sticker players were booked. Re the Martin Giles incident yes it was a red card offence but the ref never saw it!! Else he would have sent Chris Davey off as well! Re the other incident your conclusion is the most logical one but a foul is still a foul and in the penalty area its a penalty!
razor61 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Sticker 2-2 Probus Entertaining contest which ended with Martin Giles being red carded for over zealous pushing away of Probus player/manager and sub Cgris Davey! A decision that obviously didn't please Sticker manager Phil Dingle too much when overheard to say :"if we give that referee more than two it'll be disgusting" or words similar! Dave he was the worst referee I have seen, he just didn't get control from the first robust tackle early in the first half. The most bizarre decision he made was when one of our strikers was fouled in the back in the penalty area near the end. He blew his whistle for what was a foul but then decided it was a drop ball.telling the fouled player to just pass the ball back to the keeper when it should have obviously been a penalty! He has cost us two valuable points! He was an absolute joke but not funny. As for the red card for Martin Giles he didn't even see the incident as he was facing the other way. If he had been watching he would have seen Chris Davey almost strangling Martin! Razor61, We had the same ref when we played at Probus and would have given him less than TWO if we'd been allowed to...(You have to give so many points for wearing black apparently).....worst ref I've ever come across We had an incident in our game when we had a shot from the edge of the penalty area that the Probus centre half blatently handled on the line which even our keeper and two supporters behind the other goal appealed for it was that obvious....only person who claimed he didn't see it was the ref....who was actually right in line with it and must have had his eyes shut to have missed it....when asked he said that he wasn't 100% sure (what????) and that had he given a penalty he would of had to send off the centre half and wanted to keep eleven players on the pitch!!!!!.....After the game, which we lost 2-1, the ref was sat chatting merrily and having a pint with the Probus manager. Not gonna open a can of worms but that might explain why you had some dodgy decisions go against you today??? Hi Kev, Well I can well believe what you experienced after to-day's performance! Lets hope he gets to referee the likes of Torpoint and Parkway!!
Spud runner Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 TorPoint have already had him down there aweful
Dave Deacon Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Do we assume the ref at sticker today was the one named on the mitoo website?
razor61 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Do we assume the ref at sticker today was the one named on the mitoo website? I guess so Dave! I didnt go and ask him personally! Normally at the end of each home I will shake the refs hand and even have a chat with him in the clubhouse but not on this occasion. Our chairman/club linesman will definately know his name.
Pete Davey Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Having been a spectator at today's game, I thought it was a good old fashioned local derby with lots of tackles flying in. I agree with most of what's already been said. I didn't think the ref had a particularly good game and I was surprised it took until the final minute for the first red card to be issued. As a Probus player, I thought the ref needed to get of the the game a lot earlier and perhaps issuing a couple of yellows in the first 10 mins may have calmed things down abit. Of the big decisions in the game, I thought Martin Bishop (Probus) was fortunate to escape with a yellow in the first half but I was on the other side of the pitch for the Sticker penalty shout and Giles sending off so honestly couldn't comment. Once again the playing surface and general hospitality shown by Sticker was second to none and I wish them all the best for the remainder of the season and there quest for promotion. Coach KT i appreciate you don't want to "open a can of worms" but not sure what relevance Chris having a drink with the ref has to do with his performance today. Happy new year
razor61 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Having been a spectator at today's game, I thought it was a good old fashioned local derby with lots of tackles flying in. I agree with most of what's already been said. I didn't think the ref had a particularly good game and I was surprised it took until the final minute for the first red card to be issued. As a Probus player, I thought the ref needed to get of the the game a lot earlier and perhaps issuing a couple of yellows in the first 10 mins may have calmed things down abit. Of the big decisions in the game, I thought Martin Bishop (Probus) was fortunate to escape with a yellow in the first half but I was on the other side of the pitch for the Sticker penalty shout and Giles sending off so honestly couldn't comment. Once again the playing surface and general hospitality shown by Sticker was second to none and I wish them all the best for the remainder of the season and there quest for promotion. Coach KT i appreciate you don't want to "open a can of worms" but not sure what relevance Chris having a drink with the ref has to do with his performance today. Happy new year Well said Pete! Let that be an end to this thread and the best of luck to Probus for the rest of your season!
Never Touched Him Ref Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Razor why do you hope that Parkway get him? What are you suggesting, that he's a cheat? Or just bad? Because surely if he was just bad he would be bad for both teams? Maybe you're just looking for excuses for the dropped points
Selfis_7 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Too many games in hand, rubbish!!! Let me guess end of season it will be sat, tues, thurs, sat again!!! Why not who ever does the fixtures have a few more games mid week at the start of the season??? Would make sense surely???
Muddy_patch Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Too many games in hand, rubbish!!! Let me guess end of season it will be sat, tues, thurs, sat again!!! Why not who ever does the fixtures have a few more games mid week at the start of the season??? Would make sense surely??? is that Parkway trying to play down their chances again? tactics of saying..."we got too many games to catch up on"? Why not play more games at the beginning of the season. good idea. The only problem with mid-week games is that you dont know who will turn up. Many teams have their select "Ringers" who come in, and in turn, have an effect on results. No doubt Parkway can call on first team players when required though. Parkways pitch seems to be put out with the slightest bit of rain, but just because you have games in hand doesnt mean you should be using that as an excuse already.
THE LYNX AFFECT Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 hope my game is on tomorrow.. parkway v elburton :thumbsup:
THE LYNX AFFECT Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 ANYWAY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL :thumbsup:
hedgerow Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 hope my game is on tomorrow.. parkway v elburton :thumbsup: Looking doubfull
Adlestrop Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Parkway's fixture backlog is of their making-their success in the Devon Premier cup has meant the enforced postponement of some Saturday games-with at least one more to come.They can't have it all ways.
Adlestrop Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Will you be assessing the pitch for to-morrow's game,L.A.?
Harris Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Games in hand is fine with us! More games to play and more games to win! It is shame that our pitch is out all the time but I have to say, it's nothing to do with our own doing! I agree with Selfis7 we should have more games on at the start of the season so that games can be caught up on in these months, history will show Devon cup or not that these months are always touch and go for the second team playing at home, and are nearly always off! I look forward to playing catch up more fun!!
Harris Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Razor...... I hope we don't get this ref he sounds terrible!
Magic Mike Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Having been a spectator at today's game, I thought it was a good old fashioned local derby with lots of tackles flying in. I agree with most of what's already been said. I didn't think the ref had a particularly good game and I was surprised it took until the final minute for the first red card to be issued. As a Probus player, I thought the ref needed to get of the the game a lot earlier and perhaps issuing a couple of yellows in the first 10 mins may have calmed things down abit. Of the big decisions in the game, I thought Martin Bishop (Probus) was fortunate to escape with a yellow in the first half but I was on the other side of the pitch for the Sticker penalty shout and Giles sending off so honestly couldn't comment. Once again the playing surface and general hospitality shown by Sticker was second to none and I wish them all the best for the remainder of the season and there quest for promotion. Coach KT i appreciate you don't want to "open a can of worms" but not sure what relevance Chris having a drink with the ref has to do with his performance today. Happy new year reference CHRIS davey having a drink with the ref what a lot of people forget is that both chris and pete have been around the game for a very long time so know a lot of people ,refs included also some people do know officials away from the game as REFS DO HAVE FRIENDS, i know this is hard for some people to believe!! so a player por manager having a drink with the ref, whats wrong with that, christ last time B manning reffed a game a iplayed in we were chatting for about 25 mins before the game. did he give more favourable decisions to my team, no he did not. as for strong tackles and physica game in the STICKER vs PROBUS game, i wouldnt expect anything less, local derby and usual a good old slobberknocker of a game, never come off the pitch in one of those games without a bruise or two or feeling like i had been in a war, but thats how football should be, HARD & FAIR. to many people whinge and whine about tackles these days, most of the poor ones arent because people are being malicious its because they cant tackle like people used to tackle, the slide tackle that wins the ball fairly is a dying art i am afraid. THE CAT
THE LYNX AFFECT Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 still no news harris about tomorrows game :thumbsup:
THE LYNX AFFECT Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 forgot to mention my game on saturday plymstock 3 polperro 3 credit to both teams on some great football played on a very stickey pitch polperro went 3-1 up with 15 to play plymstock made a great fightback polperro then had a goal ruled out for offside. no cautions or sending offs :SM_carton:
Adlestrop Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 If there is a more honest manager around that Chris Davey-I have yet to meet him!
Sheikh Mansour Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 The Sticker vs Probus game was completely ruined by weak refereeing. As a spectator it was a good game to watch but Sticker - particularly Martin Giles were incredibly hard done by. The first half began with a few poor challenges flying in from the Probus players, stonewall yellow card offences but the referee opened the way for more poor tackling including one similar tackle coming in from a sticker centre back in retaliation. Andrew Butler was lucky to escape the game with both legs still in tact and was repeatedly hit with dangerous tackles purely because he Probus were unable to catch him to get the ball of him fairly. Through his quick footwork he managed to avoid injury but the fact that he didn't dive through the air and roll around the floor for 5 minutes does not make the tackles any better- is that what you have to do if you want protection now ? As for the penalty decision the ball comes into the Sticker striker and a probus piles straight through the back of him smashing the back of his head and getting nowhere near the ball. Referee blows the whistle for the penalty that everyone knew was coming - only to panic upon realising it was inside the penalty area say he stopped the game for a head injury and give a drop ball. Did the Sticker striker injure his own head? Then just to top it off Chris Davey grabs Martin Giles around the neck and is strangling him, Giles pushes him off so that he might be able to breath. The referee was looking the other way, Chris Davey falls to the ground the referee sees him hit the ground and after a pause decides to brandish a red card at Martin Giles for an incident he neither understood or even saw! What are you supposed to do if someone grabs you by the neck ?
razor61 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Razor why do you hope that Parkway get him? What are you suggesting, that he's a cheat? Or just bad? Because surely if he was just bad he would be bad for both teams? Maybe you're just looking for excuses for the dropped points The reason I hoped Parkway get him is simple as I rate that team and the more bad points he gets then the CCFA and Refs association will have to do something about him! He is not a cheat by the way just inept!
razor61 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Razor...... I hope we don't get this ref he sounds terrible! You probably will at some time Andy, The club will have to assess him as they find him!
Adlestrop Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Has it been established who the beleagured referee was ? I wouldn't mind betting he made fewer mistakes than most players!
bolt Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Sticker vs Probus. I was at the game and after reading everything I think these are one-sided comments.Probus deserve more credit than is being given! Yes it was a local derby and there was a lot of commitment from both sides but I think the way the Sticker bench was shouting at the ref from the start of the game to the end was disappointing. Both teams deserved yellow cards but Sticker got away with a few. Great game, great ground, sending off - should Giles have pushed Davey in the way he did? No, should know better. Ref was running away at the time and turned back at the moment he pushed him and could only give what he saw!! The abusive the ref got when leaving the field after the game from the Sticker officials was disgraceful.
velcro#1 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Hi A bit off topic but does anyone know how the pitch held up at sticker? Just want to know if Monday's cup game will be on? Thanks
razor61 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Sticker vs Probus. I was at the game and after reading everything I think these are one-sided comments.Probus deserve more credit than is being given! Yes it was a local derby and there was a lot of commitment from both sides but I think the way the Sticker bench was shouting at the ref from the start of the game to the end was disappointing. Both teams deserved yellow cards but Sticker got away with a few. Great game, great ground, sending off - should Giles have pushed Davey in the way he did? No, should know better. Ref was running away at the time and turned back at the moment he pushed him and could only give what he saw!! The abusive the ref got when leaving the field after the game from the Sticker officials was disgraceful. As I said in my earlier thread my view is biased being a Sticker supporter and even Pete Davey who is a Probus tended to agree and what was an entertaining and at times exciting game was spoiled by the ref. The abuse the ref got as he was leaving the field was not from any of the club officials but from supporters!
razor61 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Hi A bit off topic but does anyone know how the pitch held up at sticker? Just want to know if Monday's cup game will be on? Thanks Hi Velcro, It did cut up a bit but should be ok for Monday's cup game!
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