Titus Bramble Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 How much do other teams charge players each week? Troon are charging £10 signing on fee then £4 a game now! Am I right in thinking this is a tad steep or is this the norm these days? Once you factor in travel it costs a bloody fortune to play all season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo bestiniho Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 We at storm charge 25 pound signing on fee which includes jacket, polo shirt, training shirt an insurance. Then it's 3 pound a game unless your unemployed or under 18 and it's 1.50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 How much do other teams charge players each week? Troon are charging £10 signing on fee then £4 a game now! Am I right in thinking this is a tad steep or is this the norm these days? Once you factor in travel it costs a bloody fortune to play all season! Very steep indeed, that's ridiculous. If that's for all ages, I don't think they'll be getting many young players in, as for someone like me who has to work on a Sunday to help pay for everything else simply wouldn't be able to afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fal lad Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 We paid £20 sgining on fee at fal athletic and got a tracksuit and polo shirt and £3 per game, 1st and 2nd team both have done the same. I think most clubs around are doing this because its not that easy to find sponsors to keep the club running, i dont mind paying my subs each week, there are a lot of people who work to keep the club running using their own free time to make sure we have a pitch to play on and clean kit to wear every week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Bramble Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Hmmm, considering we haven't been given any shirts, jackets or polo tops it does seem a bit expensive! It's not like have a luxury clubhouse to maintain either! I'm happy to pay subs too Gary, it's just a bit of an increase from last season! We paid £2.50 per match last year with no signing on fee! As far as I see this season, nothing is different! Not sure what we're paying for now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksy007 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 we charge £5 which covers loss of balls, insurance and everything in between. In the winter it covers the cost of using an all weather pitch for training also. It may be steep but its what we need to charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejman Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 How much do other teams charge players each week? Troon are charging £10 signing on fee then £4 a game now! Am I right in thinking this is a tad steep or is this the norm these days? Once you factor in travel it costs a bloody fortune to play all season! Troon AFC charge these subs and signing on fee for one reason, to be able to provide a football club for you to play football! thats it in its simplest form, the £10 covers the players insurance, entrance to the leagues, and all the affiliations that go with entering a league nowadays,endless! £4 subs covers the refs fees which have gone up due to petrol prices, and £1 of that £4 goes towards the training on Wednesdays so that we dont have to collect on the night, so basically your paying £3 subs for sat football, which is not too bad considering all you do is pitch up for football, play, and go home, you have no idea what goes on behind the scenes for a football match. obviously if you had a little more to do with the club rather than just coming on here and moaning about little things before mentioning it to the correct people within the club, then maybe this is not the club for you, Troon AFC have been running for over 50 yrs, and i'm sure they Will cope without you for another 50! so do 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Bramble Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 No need to get so touchy Jamie! All i'm doing is finding out what other clubs pay! I believe freedom of speech still applies! Clearly from thr replies I can see the subs are actually average. No need to get teasy though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano11 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 WENDRON ONLY CHARGE £2 AND YOU GET SAUSAGE AND CHIPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countyman Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Clubs charging that amount seems fair - Any player that believes it "ridiculous" (Tempo) should consider just how they believe things are paid for in the real world! Affiliation, Insurance, pitch rental, winter training pitch hire, kit, kitwashing, balls, nets, electric, water, grounds maintenance, line marking, refs, stationery, first aid............ then you multiply that for every team you have at your club. These days it costs a huge amount (in money as well as time) to help contribute to running a club. Match subs of £4.00 a player - 13 players = £52.00 a week - average 25 matches a season including cups = £1300.00 per team income. 12 refs at average £25.00 = £300, kitwash approx £12/kit =£300, Pitch rent say £400, Insurance £150, Affiliation to league and cups say £150, Do the maths - theres nothing left in the kitty - and thats assuming all your players are adults and paying full subs! So where do your balls, nets, kits, showers, training etc come from? Be pro-active and support your Club - sugggest any kind of fundraising and keep football going - because if we aren't careful one day the money will indeed run out! Or join a gym - more expensive still - or buy a bike - a decent one will cost you £10 a week minimum, or swim - have you seen the prices....... need I go on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifty Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Not a lot else you could do for 2 hours on a Saturday afternoon for £3-4. Nurse 1 pint for 2 hours down the pub. Wander round the shops with the missus (mind you that would cost a lot more than £3) Swim/Gym all about £5 And a lot of the Saturday football stuff is about the banter/social/camaraderie stuff as well - not just playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Bramble Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I can see it's about right now, I was just a bit shocked by the sudden increase with no real notice! I'm not disputing that players should pay subs, I just wandered whether £4 was average or high or below average! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fal lad Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 £4 is a very average price for football, especially at a club that owns and maintains its own pitch, might not have an amazing clubhouse but we dont at Athletic and we still turn up, play and pay because thats what playing is all about, you been round long enough now Will to know that you have to pay subs each week, you may think £4 is a bit steep but there are a lot of teams who pay the same, yes you came on only asking about other clubs, maybe you shouldnt of said it the way you did, you could always go out wendron and pay £2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Gregory Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 just out of interest as I said in reply to an earlier topic. Taking everything into account, it cost about £170 per game to stage football at Hayle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish-blue Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Two simple options for running a club which would make things easy on the money front; 1: you could come and pick some money off my " money tree" cos i'm sure my kids think we have 1 in the garden 2: Just do what Heaney does and don't bother to pay anyone for any services to do with your club .. must save a few quid but not much face :c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 as has been briefly mentioned most clubs could not survive without a small band of volunteers who provide countless hours and sometimes money for the love of their club. and most do not even kick a ball in anger. very few players realise how much goes on behind the scenes between games at THEIR OWN clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Bramble Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 This topic has spiralled! All I wanted was a comparable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Clubs charging that amount seems fair - Any player that believes it "ridiculous" (Tempo) should consider just how they believe things are paid for in the real world! Affiliation, Insurance, pitch rental, winter training pitch hire, kit, kitwashing, balls, nets, electric, water, grounds maintenance, line marking, refs, stationery, first aid............ then you multiply that for every team you have at your club. These days it costs a huge amount (in money as well as time) to help contribute to running a club. Match subs of £4.00 a player - 13 players = £52.00 a week - average 25 matches a season including cups = £1300.00 per team income. 12 refs at average £25.00 = £300, kitwash approx £12/kit =£300, Pitch rent say £400, Insurance £150, Affiliation to league and cups say £150, Do the maths - theres nothing left in the kitty - and thats assuming all your players are adults and paying full subs! So where do your balls, nets, kits, showers, training etc come from? Be pro-active and support your Club - sugggest any kind of fundraising and keep football going - because if we aren't careful one day the money will indeed run out! Or join a gym - more expensive still - or buy a bike - a decent one will cost you £10 a week minimum, or swim - have you seen the prices....... need I go on? I said it was ridiculous if it applied to all ages, guessing you didn't get a gcse in English. I doubt many 16 year olds can afford that. Luckily I have a part time job so I'm okay for now. I understand how much it costs to run a club, i'm not naive. However, clubs do have to be realistic as well, 16 year olds can't get money from going to college or sixth form. And for those who don't bother following the news, we don't get EMA any more either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish-Ref Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Clubs charging that amount seems fair - Any player that believes it "ridiculous" (Tempo) should consider just how they believe things are paid for in the real world! Affiliation, Insurance, pitch rental, winter training pitch hire, kit, kitwashing, balls, nets, electric, water, grounds maintenance, line marking, refs, stationery, first aid............ then you multiply that for every team you have at your club. These days it costs a huge amount (in money as well as time) to help contribute to running a club. Match subs of £4.00 a player - 13 players = £52.00 a week - average 25 matches a season including cups = £1300.00 per team income. 12 refs at average £25.00 = £300, kitwash approx £12/kit =£300, Pitch rent say £400, Insurance £150, Affiliation to league and cups say £150, Do the maths - theres nothing left in the kitty - and thats assuming all your players are adults and paying full subs! So where do your balls, nets, kits, showers, training etc come from? Be pro-active and support your Club - sugggest any kind of fundraising and keep football going - because if we aren't careful one day the money will indeed run out! Or join a gym - more expensive still - or buy a bike - a decent one will cost you £10 a week minimum, or swim - have you seen the prices....... need I go on? I said it was ridiculous if it applied to all ages, guessing you didn't get a gcse in English. I doubt many 16 year olds can afford that. Luckily I have a part time job so I'm okay for now. I understand how much it costs to run a club, i'm not naive. However, clubs do have to be realistic as well, 16 year olds can't get money from going to college or sixth form. And for those who don't bother following the news, we don't get EMA any more either. Well when you're a bit older, it will be more than likely £6.00 per game so you can complain some more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Clubs charging that amount seems fair - Any player that believes it "ridiculous" (Tempo) should consider just how they believe things are paid for in the real world! Affiliation, Insurance, pitch rental, winter training pitch hire, kit, kitwashing, balls, nets, electric, water, grounds maintenance, line marking, refs, stationery, first aid............ then you multiply that for every team you have at your club. These days it costs a huge amount (in money as well as time) to help contribute to running a club. Match subs of £4.00 a player - 13 players = £52.00 a week - average 25 matches a season including cups = £1300.00 per team income. 12 refs at average £25.00 = £300, kitwash approx £12/kit =£300, Pitch rent say £400, Insurance £150, Affiliation to league and cups say £150, Do the maths - theres nothing left in the kitty - and thats assuming all your players are adults and paying full subs! So where do your balls, nets, kits, showers, training etc come from? Be pro-active and support your Club - sugggest any kind of fundraising and keep football going - because if we aren't careful one day the money will indeed run out! Or join a gym - more expensive still - or buy a bike - a decent one will cost you £10 a week minimum, or swim - have you seen the prices....... need I go on? I said it was ridiculous if it applied to all ages, guessing you didn't get a gcse in English. I doubt many 16 year olds can afford that. Luckily I have a part time job so I'm okay for now. I understand how much it costs to run a club, i'm not naive. However, clubs do have to be realistic as well, 16 year olds can't get money from going to college or sixth form. And for those who don't bother following the news, we don't get EMA any more either. Well when you're a bit older, it will be more than likely £6.00 per game so you can complain some more! I'm simply right. The clubs I have played for so far, either charge less or nothing for under 18's because it's hard enough for us to get over there. Me and my mate usually have to get the bus or something. I didn't mean to sound like i was complaining, just trying to say that it is very hard for people my age to get to the match with out help from the club, let alone pay 4 quid per game on top of that :c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitty Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 To an extent I agree with some of Tempos comments. Players have to take responsibility in helping to run a club by paying their subscription charges when required! I get frustrated when players turn up into a season knowing full well that subs are required (£2 at Holmans for the record) but have "forgot" to bring it! I will always catch the player with a £2.80 pint in their hand later the little buggers !! However adding to Tempos comments clubs also need to take into account that to survive we need to encourage youngsters to make the transition from youth to adult football and sometimes the only way that can be achieved is to reduce the amount required or not charge at all. Without youth players making the step into adult sides clubs will struggle to exist as we have seen with a number of Trelawny league sides some of which had been very successfull in the past but have had players move on or finish playing and not had enough younger players following behind to be encouraged to be the "clubmen" of the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharks35 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Unemployed £4 Employed £6 + £1 at training and £10 signing on fee!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlyneastno.10 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Clubs charging that amount seems fair - Any player that believes it "ridiculous" (Tempo) should consider just how they believe things are paid for in the real world! Affiliation, Insurance, pitch rental, winter training pitch hire, kit, kitwashing, balls, nets, electric, water, grounds maintenance, line marking, refs, stationery, first aid............ then you multiply that for every team you have at your club. These days it costs a huge amount (in money as well as time) to help contribute to running a club. Match subs of £4.00 a player - 13 players = £52.00 a week - average 25 matches a season including cups = £1300.00 per team income. 12 refs at average £25.00 = £300, kitwash approx £12/kit =£300, Pitch rent say £400, Insurance £150, Affiliation to league and cups say £150, Do the maths - theres nothing left in the kitty - and thats assuming all your players are adults and paying full subs! So where do your balls, nets, kits, showers, training etc come from? Be pro-active and support your Club - sugggest any kind of fundraising and keep football going - because if we aren't careful one day the money will indeed run out! Or join a gym - more expensive still - or buy a bike - a decent one will cost you £10 a week minimum, or swim - have you seen the prices....... need I go on? I said it was ridiculous if it applied to all ages, guessing you didn't get a gcse in English. I doubt many 16 year olds can afford that. Luckily I have a part time job so I'm okay for now. I understand how much it costs to run a club, i'm not naive. However, clubs do have to be realistic as well, 16 year olds can't get money from going to college or sixth form. And for those who don't bother following the news, we don't get EMA any more either. Well when you're a bit older, it will be more than likely £6.00 per game so you can complain some more! I'm simply right. The clubs I have played for so far, either charge less or nothing for under 18's because it's hard enough for us to get over there. Me and my mate usually have to get the bus or something. I didn't mean to sound like i was complaining, just trying to say that it is very hard for people my age to get to the match with out help from the club, let alone pay 4 quid per game on top of that Good job ya dont play for us then mate as its £4 a game plus fines, ends up being about £10 a week, but at the end of the day like everyone else says its worth it for what ya get, bout time you realised everything costs money mate so stop moaning n crack on or dont play..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksy007 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 seriously... why are the unemployed paying less at certain clubs? its not an illness.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Bramble Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 seriously... why are the unemployed paying less at certain clubs? its not an illness.... I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_GAFC8 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Goonhavern charge £10 signing on fee and £3 per game. This has already helped us to buy new training equipment and helps pay towards keeping our pitch in top nick week in, week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 wouldnt it be nice if the councils owned pitches were free and referees were subsidised by the proffesional leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano11 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 sharks what team are those subs for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano11 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 sharks what team are those subs for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Gave my opinion buddy, that's what the forums are for :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeww Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 How much do other teams charge players each week? Troon are charging £10 signing on fee then £4 a game now! Am I right in thinking this is a tad steep or is this the norm these days? Once you factor in travel it costs a bloody fortune to play all season! £4 a week to play football (including a hours training), bargain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish-blue Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 However, clubs do have to be realistic as well, 16 year olds can't get money from going to college or sixth form. And for those who don't bother following the news, we don't get EMA any more either. Maybe not but they are all in the pub on "student night" and seem to afford to be able to go out far more than i can & that goes for the unemployed aswell i sure anyone can afford £3 - £5 quid a week if they wanna play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs284 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 No need to get so touchy Jamie! All i'm doing is finding out what other clubs pay! I believe freedom of speech still applies! Clearly from thr replies I can see the subs are actually average. No need to get teasy though! How much sponsor money did u raise on sponsored bike ride from Lands End TO TROON how many maintaince days did u show up for and how many hours did u put in on our fun day workin on stalls mate ?? So i think £4 is well cheap when all u do is turn up and HEY PRESTO its all been done for U !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Bramble Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 No need to get so touchy Jamie! All i'm doing is finding out what other clubs pay! I believe freedom of speech still applies! Clearly from thr replies I can see the subs are actually average. No need to get teasy though! How much sponsor money did u raise on sponsored bike ride from Lands End TO TROON how many maintaince days did u show up for and how many hours did u put in on our fun day workin on stalls mate ?? So i think £4 is well cheap when all u do is turn up and HEY PRESTO its all been done for U !!!! Wind your neck in! Don't think I've ever actually been told about any events until the last minute but i've still turned up and spent money to help the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 However, clubs do have to be realistic as well, 16 year olds can't get money from going to college or sixth form. And for those who don't bother following the news, we don't get EMA any more either. Maybe not but they are all in the pub on "student night" and seem to afford to be able to go out far more than i can & that goes for the unemployed aswell i sure anyone can afford £3 - £5 quid a week if they wanna play I don't go out on student nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Hill Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 £4 is average!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flibert2 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 sharks what team are those subs for I think this looks like halsetown, no free pitch any more, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltzingmatilda Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 However, clubs do have to be realistic as well, 16 year olds can't get money from going to college or sixth form. And for those who don't bother following the news, we don't get EMA any more either. Maybe not but they are all in the pub on "student night" and seem to afford to be able to go out far more than i can & that goes for the unemployed aswell i sure anyone can afford £3 - £5 quid a week if they wanna play I don't go out on student nights. That's because you seem to spend all night evry night on here :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 However, clubs do have to be realistic as well, 16 year olds can't get money from going to college or sixth form. And for those who don't bother following the news, we don't get EMA any more either. Maybe not but they are all in the pub on "student night" and seem to afford to be able to go out far more than i can & that goes for the unemployed aswell i sure anyone can afford £3 - £5 quid a week if they wanna play I don't go out on student nights. That's because you seem to spend all night evry night on here A guy's gotta have something to do during study time :SM_carton: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungle Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I don't go out on student nights Thats because your a geek and always posting rubbish on here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 It's because I'm 16 and unlikely to get in because my mates look quite young actually. I still go to parties just not student nights, and I don't see what this has got to do with anything anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fal lad Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 If students and under 18's can afford to go out to parties then they can afford subs, but i agree with pitty about bringing the youth through, i maybe wrong but i think if an under 18 plays for us then they either dont pay or pay just a pound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I have also said several times that I work, so it's not an issue for me :glare: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 And the club i have played for either charged me less or nothing at all because it's a lot of hassle for me to get to places. E.g, train or bus, as i can't drive yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungle Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Maybe save money by getting rid of the internet, then everybodys a winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennybean Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 st.keverne is 20 pound signing on and 3 pound a game 1.50 for students. no free stuff, the kit is washed for free by a players family. we still have to do fund raising on top to keep club going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempo Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Maybe save money by getting rid of the internet, then everybodys a winner! Trololol :yahoo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smashing pumpkin Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 And the club i have played for either charged me less or nothing at all because it's a lot of hassle for me to get to places. E.g, train or bus, as i can't drive yet why dont you get one of them scooters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeww Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 And the club i have played for either charged me less or nothing at all because it's a lot of hassle for me to get to places. E.g, train or bus, as i can't drive yet why dont you get one of them scooters get a push bike, warm-up done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countyman Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Chaps - It just confirms that at all levels the local football scene needs supporting at this difficult time. Players and fans should acknowledge the hard work - often unpaid - that goes into getting the matches played. Players need to involve themselves in fundraising - with new fresh ideas coming through constantly, and not forget that its the supporters and sponsors that keeps the teams playing really, despite the subs which are absolutely necessary. Its a tough old world out there and as long as players put back a little time, and supporters do "support", and the local pub and community are encouraged to contribute - with a little fun, excitement and entertainment thrown in , then we'll all be in our dotage watching our local sides in the decades to come. We've a special thing here in Cornwall - name me another County that has Saturday football as a priority. The history of our Clubs may be recent, or may go back over a century - but none of us want to see things take a step for the worse and I truly believe that here in Cornwall Junior Football is the best advert for all that is right in the sporting world today. Ok rose tinted specs off - time to look at the crap that the Peninsular idiots post! Cheers m'dears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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