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Its A Joke How Storm Can Only Raise 5 Players For A Home Game Disgrace

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Its A Joke How Storm Can Only Raise 5 Players For A Home Game Disgrace

I'm sure that the league (seeing that it is run very well) would make their own judgement on this issue!

Personally I know what some Sunday football players can be like at times, with the old HANGOVER vs FOOTBALL question to be answered first of all. At times the club can surely not be perfect and would probably not deserve this kind of adverse attention from someone like yourself. Perhaps the way to go about this would be to get in contact with the club?

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Its A Joke How Storm Can Only Raise 5 Players For A Home Game Disgrace

Perhaps "Young legend", when he's been running a club, can tell us what he did when players just melted away as match day approached.

How did he deal with that horrible sinking feeling as it became clear that there weren't going to be enough players to make a team?

Of course it must certainly be "The club's" fault that there were injuries, players poached, family events, domestic problems - as all these unforeseeable problems should have been foreseen by "The club". Maybe even some players had had enough of playing with stupid immature idiots who blame everyone else and do nothing themselves?

Surely he wouldn't make such comments if he hasn't run a team himself?

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Its A Joke How Storm Can Only Raise 5 Players For A Home Game Disgrace

Perhaps "Young legend", when he's been running a club, can tell us what he did when players just melted away as match day approached.

How did he deal with that horrible sinking feeling as it became clear that there weren't going to be enough players to make a team?

Of course it must certainly be "The club's" fault that there were injuries, players poached, family events, domestic problems - as all these unforeseeable problems should have been foreseen by "The club". Maybe even some players had had enough of playing with stupid immature idiots who blame everyone else and do nothing themselves?

Surely he wouldn't make such comments if he hasn't run a team himself?

Well said!! :smiley20:

This has only been my first season at running a team and it can be pretty hard raising a side for a Sunday morning! There is always so much interest at the beginning of the week but it gradually fades with excuses (some valid and some pathetic)

Our squad consists of pretty much the same players that we have for our Saturday side. We have lots of lads signed on but unfortunately you never can be sure until you wake up on Sunday morning and check your phone who will be turning up. We have a youngish side so most of the boys are out on the lash on a Saturday night and so never know what state they will wake up in, it comes with the territory of having a morning KO of on a Sunday I'm afraid. For us because we have a game on the Saturday if a game is called of on the Sunday morning its a good excuse for a bit of a lie in so its really not the end of the world and certainly not something to spit your dummy out over! ;)

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I think that it's fair for Young Legend to say what he feels about Storm. I know how tough it is running a Sunday league side, but there have been repeated issues with Storm this season. This includes contacting us 15 minutes before kick off to tell us they're not coming and playing four senior players against Star. I know they have had points docked, but they seem to have had very little interest or respect for the league. Maybe they should have been allowed to drop out when they wanted to?

Also Bill, just wondering after some of the comments earlier in the season, how come its okay for Lionheart to call Young Legend 'Bellend' on the forum?

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I do think before I type and if you read back to the other forum I didn't say you had told your players to do that, what I had written was relaying something that was said by one of your defenders to one of our players.

I understand that other teams have had some issues with Ben on this forum, and this is something that I have spoken about with Bill, but I think it would help the situation if people referred to him by his proper name / username.

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If as you said you thought before you typed why did you put that we played 4 senior players against Star??? Obviously you have proof of that allegation!

Please provide that as I would love to see it, I was present at that game and so know exactly who played.

And yes everybody we did have difficulties raising a side toward the end of the season due to the Senior player rule, four of our players got the chance to play senior football to help another club out not realising they were then not able to play Sundays for a month. Probably the worst rule ever invented if you want to encourage participation in a league.

Anyway I think people in the Sunday league need to get a sense of realism, starting a thread about a club being thrown out of the league, when the FA have come out and said that Sunday league participation is down massively, leagues are struggling and clubs going under every week. Whatever happened to football being about fun and enjoyment???

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I was informed about the four players at our game with Star in January. I also notice that your win was overturned and the points awarded to Star. I assume there was a reason for that decision.

I'm sorry you've struggled to raise a side this season and I agree that the senior player rule is a problem. We've had a very good player sit out most of the season as a result, and we've probably lost someone else for the rest of the season as a result.

But I think it's important to understand the frustration that was felt with what has happened this season. Yes, we've been awarded 6 points for our matches against Storm, but where was the fun or enjoyment in that?

If you enter a team next season I wish you better luck.

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A thread being started about a team being thrown out of the leage is done solely by players and nothing to do with the league. The league will make impartial decisions. As for the senior player rule its pretty simple. If you are a senior player you cant play. There is a case that you can play less than 5 games or whatever it is and then after waiting a month or certain period of time you maybe able to play ( not totally sure) but if you play in the sunday league or enter a team in the sunday league just dont rely on players that are senior players or are likely to become senior players. Any player that chooses to play senior football even for 1 game knows what the rules are before you do it. I was asked to play 1 game for a peninsula side 2 seasons ago to helpout and im sure it wouldve been only 1 game but didnt. Mainly because of a lack of confidence on my part but if i did i knew the rules for the sunday league. Its easy and has been the same for a lot of years now

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Not having senior players in your league, will always cause problems as some players capable of playing a higher standard will remain in junior football just to play two games in a weekend.( mind you I am a great believer in young players playing at junior level for at least a couple of seasons,most of the cornish greats played junior football ie Nigel Martyn-heavey transport j/cup winner) can,t see any reason why teams should not be able to play a couple of senior players.Also the Sunday league was originally formed for players that could,nt play on a Saturday (Work ect) you could go back to this?.Although i don,t really attend many Sunday fixtures it does seem to have taken a rapid downhill slide with very few strong sides, only a few teams in each league, and a lack of loyal players. I may be totally wrong, what views have players that have played for a few seasons got? has it got worse?

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The standard in general has gone down over the years. Thats my own personal opinion. Im going back about 15years or more. Mind you as you are well aware there did used to be some serious whipping boys and ive played in a few of those teams aswell as playing for the better teams and winning several trophies. Having said all that i believe the standard of saturday football has dropped a litle aswell. Maybe im just getting old haha.

I think sunday league football is in a pretty good place still. Theres enough interest and more importantly enough enjoyment. Im not that bothered about the standard. Ive played in goal in the good teams and am happy now just playing and when else would i get the chance to play outfield if there wasnt sunday footy, it wouldnt happen. Im sure theres plenty others playing sunday footy for the enjoyment, winning things being a bonus.

Sundays are for the unfit, not very good and just play for fun players ( hoping to win of course), with a few exceptions as obviously there are some fairly good players playing.

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Also the Sunday league was originally formed for players that could,nt play on a Saturday (Work ect) you could go back to this?

Sundays are for the unfit, not very good and just play for fun players ( hoping to win of course).

Urban myth the the Sunday League was formed for "players that couldn't play on a Saturday." Peter Hickey formed it as a sporting league, where enjoyment was the priority. The original league allowed 2 senior players per team (and they'd have had to play Saturdays) to raise the standards. The CCFA simply won't allow that now. Also it was difficult to police. As you know, any rule that teams can get away with breaking is, in football, pretty useless. The big benefit of the current Sunday League practice is that it is possible to catch out teams that offend.

Darren, a fair self description, but not of a typical Sunday League player.

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While I agree with some of the comments I have to say that it comes to something when you have to put teams down and also start a poll on weather a team should be kicked out of the league or not

I think it is a shame that such a well run league should be brought down by such stupid comments and polls

The Sunday league has always been a good league to play in and in years gone by some great players have graced the pitches of Cornwall on a Sunday morning but times change as do the rules and the players

I think the rule regarding senior players is a good and bad thing but rules are rules and if you do not like them then it is best that you do not play if you cannot follow them

The standard does seem to have diminished over the years and looking at division 1 alone over the last 2 or 3 seasons there have only been 2 maybe 3 teams at most who would challenge for a title or a cup and this season seems to be the same although I cannot say the same for division 2 as I only played in that division for ½ a season

From experience the clubs I have played for always had around 30 to 40 players signed on but only a maximum of 13 ever used to turn up and sometimes it was less but we always played and although it is a shame that Storm could only muster 5 players I think you have to look at all angles before jumping on here shouting the odds

Some teams have been together for years as im sure oldasitgets will confirm and they enjoy there Sunday morning games weather they have 9 10 or 11 players and credit to them I say

Storm will have had there reasons and im sure that whoever they were playing that day managed to get 3 points to which I would have been happy with

If you run a side on Saturdays you would normally get hold of your players in the week to confirm the game and ask if they are available which 99% of the time they are but Sundays is a different story and always has been, You can get hold of all the players you like during the week but come Sunday morning it is not until you get to the dressing room that you know who is going to be playing and who is not, Simples

There are lots of reasons as to why people don’t always make Sunday games and that will always be the case and there is not a lot anyone can do about that no poll or thread putting teams down will ever change that im afraid so enjoy it when you get a game and enjoy it when you get 3 points for doing nothing

All the best to all the teams involved in the Sunday league :)

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Also the Sunday league was originally formed for players that could,nt play on a Saturday (Work ect) you could go back to this?

Sundays are for the unfit, not very good and just play for fun players ( hoping to win of course).

Darren, a fair self description, but not of a typical Sunday League player.

To be fair i did say there were exceptions and there are some good players. The league is competetive between the players/teams that we have got and at the standard that it is. As for my fair description it is quite accurate about myself although i havnt always been that way. I think my points stand as a 19stone goalkeeper (21 stones last year) has scored 61 goals in 64 games since MPAD started playing under that name. That includes several games in goal, centre back and midfield. Im not very good and can hardly get around the pitch and regularly agree with the snipes from other players about my weight. The sunday league has plenty of unfit, not great and play for fun players.(mind u theres plenty like that in some leagues on saturdays). Most of the teams in div 2 have a good mix with these players plus good ones. Some of div 1 are the same and always have been. I would imagine there are 3 or 4 teams in div 1 that are very handy but thats always been the case going back to when i was winning things with mawnan js 13/14 years ago. Us, Truro, etc. Apologies to other teams i cant remember right now. Loads of good one of come and gone. 3 or 4 good teams but the rest average. Always a lot of fun though.

Going back a decade probably most of the teams in sunday league div 1 would more than hold there own in fal/hel div 1 and some would seriously challenge. Im not to sure about now as havnt seen much of div 1 this season. Div 2 is prob midtable fal/hel 3 standard with the odd very good player thrown in the mix aswell but is a lot more fun on sundays

Basically a very good and well run league which is very competitive within the league without it being a startling standard. Def not saying its a bad standard though. There are some good teams and some very good players

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Old as gits, you do make me laugh, do you think you are the only one that had the privelige of knowing Peter Hickey? I and many others have good memories of his relationship within the Sunday League.Also Winning the Peter Hickey Cup with the Three Ferrets from St Ives, under manager Neil Phillips springs to mind as it was played at Mullion, and we won on a penalty shoot out, and on that day there were some players on that pitch that became legends in cornish football.(Phil Shapcott,Robbie Danks+co)and has retired for now says the teams were very strong.

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