derek martyn Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Torpoint, Plymouth Parkway, Truro City, Saltash, Tamarside 3 - 2 Godolphin (pub side) Is this in the spirit of the game ? draw your own conclusions ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Baptist Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Haven't a clue what you're mincing on about Derek?? Care to enlighten us all?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek martyn Posted May 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Have a think about it John ! Oh and whilst your thinking you can add Falmouth into the "Inter Peninsula league side" equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mike Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 TAXI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakey Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 and Liskeard from what i heard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ECPL Supporter Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Hakey, how's it going at dobwalls? or lanreath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ECPL Supporter Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Personally i think it's 11 against 11 and you should just get on with it. Sometimes it can work in your favour as the team are not used to playing together or the players brought in are not as hungry. Sometimes it can work against you. But if you let it bother you it can stop you playing your own game and cause you're worried about them and have got a ready made excuse. 1 game doesn't win or lose leagues, a whole season does!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Postie Pidge Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I think he's insinuating that Tamarside used players from the other named clubs. Who was the Falmouth player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansome dan Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 welcome to the hard done by clubs derek,it happened over 20 years ago to port when i was there. we lost league coz newquay played a "strenghthened side" final game of the season.it,s not right and never will be, and the idiots who think its ok have never been in that position and probably never will be because they have,nt got values or principles,or are,nt good enough to be in that position. how many times have i seen on this site "its legal so its ok","others do it to us"from idiots-only consolation is things have a way of righting themselves in footie,look at newquay now ,they,ve not done much since then and they were a super side back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dermot Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 It just seems to me that it wasnt a victory for Tamarside but a victory for Torpoint ? But can i just say well done to The G and you never know with 2 games to go and 16 goals to make up,footballs a funny old game. ;0) :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crosser Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 The falmouth player was ben davies. I can understand how Goldolphin feel but one game doesn't lose you a title i'm sure some of the Torpoint ECPL players will feel there's been games over the season were things have happenened to them. You've just got to get on with it. Goldolphin still have a chance to win the title thats what they should be worrying about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawa Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 All the cliches are wrong.....one game at the end of the season does lose you the title. I cant believe the amount of players playing for them from different clubs. 6 or 7 isn't the odd player. I'd love to see it the other way round then see what people think. Tamarside probably don't care, but it's so wrong. I have nothing to do with godolphin but certainly understand their annoyance. Loads of clubs can pick other players but don't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dermot Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Perfect description of events `Rawa` Well said and i am sure many agree with your posting. :clapper: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlen Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I have to disagree entirely with all those who say” it doesn’t really matter”, or “its just 11 against 11” and “one game doesn’t win or lose you a title”. To all who think those excuses are perfectly valid for playing mercenaries (or mates who wouldn’t normally play for you) How about this scenario: Alex Ferguson is the father of Peterborough manager Darren Ferguson, would it be OK then for Peterborough to roll up at Rochdale on a Wednesday night towards the end of the season when Man Utd don’t have a mid-week game (unlikely I grant you… but) with Rooney, Ronaldo, Ferdinand,Vidic and Hargreaves in their side and win 5 – 0. Of course this would never happen because FA and League rules at that level wouldn’t allow it – Now there’s a very good reason for that – because it would be deemed grossly unfair and not in keeping with the spirit of the sport. Well folks, I would say the same should apply further down the pecking order into grassroots football and it’s about time it did. Player should sign-on at start of the season either as Senior or Junior and for one club only, if at the end of the season clubs flood their second teams with first-teamers that is something we’d just have to accept, as they are at least playing for that club. But the current situation where we have senior players popping up all over the place in different teams in different leagues to bail out this team or boost the title hopes of another is at best a shabby practice and must be very disheartening for some of the smaller clubs. Come on the FA and the leagues, lets start playing fair right across the board eh.?…..do unto others, and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Time for the sensible Clubs to get the Rules amended to one Club only signings. It is clear that the spirit of Rule 8 is being flouted and the Management of the League should take a long look at what is going on. Some Years ago I had to stand in front of the AGM and promise that our Club would not abuse the rule by overloading with First Teamers just to boost Reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Rowett Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Agree wholeheartedly with your point Arlen, but do you feel that there are enough players going around since the introduction of the rule that stops players under the age of 16 from playing men's football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truros mr mourinho Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 so why didnt tamerside play all there players in the final of the evely cup,instead of their lame excuse to get the 2 final dates changed to nearely nex season,we wouldnt have minded we would have still give them a football lesson' :angry2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlen Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Gareth Not really sure about the new under 16 rule and what effect it has. Both of my lads who currently play, didn’t start playing in the men’s game until they were 16 and 15 respectively, however some of my own mates, admittedly they were the better youngsters at the time (and that was over 30 years ago now) were playing at 14 with no problems, and to be honest it was, shall we say, a somewhat more robust game at that time. Biggest problem over the years that I have noticed, is that come July and August you can get plenty of potential players who turn up and sign-on (well if you’re lucky you do anyway) and by October/November time (colder, wetter and muddier) a third of the players registered at the club have gone walkabout resulting in the more junior sides having a real struggle to get 11 players each week. Thing is I guess…there are so many other things a young man can do with his spare time these days, 30 years ago, if you weren’t into football at the weekend you were probably “Billy no-mates” or the like. Interestingly I have noted in recent years just how many good (some of them very good too) teenagers who played youth football at the same time as my two boys, just stopped playing altogether at 16 or 17 I don’t know…maybe we’ve just got too many leagues/divisions/teams for the time in which we live. My God what a rant I’m on today…..ah.!!...I know why….season’s finished, nothing left to do (well for a week or two anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete dillon Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 It is ridiculous for people to say that loading teams up with players from bigger clubs does not matter and that it is only 11 against 11 as previously stated on here....have these people forgottten or are they just not aware that only a couple of seasons ago Nanpean played half the St.Blazey first team against Camelford in a vital ECPL final league fixture and won 1-0 with a goal scored by one of these players which sent Bude down in which i know was a highly embarrassing affair witnessed by many that night and has been mentioned and much regretted already by Chairman or the farce at Padstow who fielded the Bodmin first team striker whose goals in an otherwise shock 5-0 win over his OWN clubs (Bodmin's) second team in another vital match in the ECPL championship run-in effectively ended their hopes that season. I am afraid this has been going on for many years as several will testify but still those in power do nothing just like suspensions for weeks instead of matches which is outdated and unfair and unnecessary replays in cup matches etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARIN Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 It's always happened and always will until a rule is brought in that states that you can only play for one club regardless of what league they are in. It's bad enough filling a second team with first team regulars to help you out of a tight spot but drafting from other teams is completely wrong in my opinion. Is putting first teamers that will be sat on the bench and not get a game into the second team wrong? Many people see this as unacceptable too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peppermint Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Excellent postings by Arlen that sums up the situation very well. I t does nothing for Tamarside's reputation if they can play some many players from other clubs and playing first team players from Torpoint is absolutely taking the mickey. Truro Mr M is also spot on because Tamarside should have been made to play on the due final date in the Evely Cup. The FA Cup Final date was set at the start of the season and Portsmouth and Cardiff cannot askfor it to be played at a later date. If Tamarside have all these players at their disposal then they could have played on the proper date. It seems very unfair that Godolphin beat Torpoint Reserves last week and throughly deserved to on the balance of play andthen could have the title snatched away bythis unfair act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ECPL Supporter Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 unfair act? Tamarside also brought players in when they played torpoint, did torpoint complain? no. Sticker had players in from another club when they played torpoint, did torpoint complain? no. it's a long old season and many many talking points where every team will feel hard done by somewhere. Things always even themselves out over a season and the best team wins the league. Godolphin can still win it, so if they really are hard done by i'm sure they will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudas Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Until the rule is changed its always going to happen, i dont think you can blame the players cause at the end of the day they are doing what they enjoy playing football. (hands up i have also played for another team at the end of the season as my orignal season finished way back at the beginning of april.) As the rule reads at the moment its allowed, i do agree it should be look into thou. Just like to point out thou that the G for all their claims of being hard done by, have been using a player that played elsewhere all season and only joined them for the last couple of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lobb Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 I fully sympathise with Godolphins feelings in relation to this situation. It is true that Tamarside did not breach any rules in this matter, and I think that most people who have seen Torpoint or Godolphin would agree that either of them would make worthy champions. However i feel that Tamarside's integrity has taken a large blow.What about the spirit of the game that is so often talked about? There have been several comments about the best team winning the league over a season. That is usually true , but only if it is a level playing field.Can it be called level if Torpoint played against a Tamarside team that did not contain these players from a higher league. Indeed if Tamarside fielded the same team on Weds night for their other games would they not have won the league. Why were all the drafted players from a higher league.Do they not have a second team that they could have used?Will any other ECPL sides now refuse to play a midweek game against Tamarside for fear of playing against a team that bears little resemblance to their normal side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ECPL Supporter Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 I fully sympathise with Godolphins feelings in relation to this situation. It is true that Tamarside did not breach any rules in this matter, and I think that most people who have seen Torpoint or Godolphin would agree that either of them would make worthy champions. However i feel that Tamarside's integrity has taken a large blow.What about the spirit of the game that is so often talked about? There have been several comments about the best team winning the league over a season. That is usually true , but only if it is a level playing field.Can it be called level if Torpoint played against a Tamarside team that did not contain these players from a higher league. Indeed if Tamarside fielded the same team on Weds night for their other games would they not have won the league. Why were all the drafted players from a higher league.Do they not have a second team that they could have used?Will any other ECPL sides now refuse to play a midweek game against Tamarside for fear of playing against a team that bears little resemblance to their normal side. Torpoint DID play tamarside containing these players at the start of the season. What's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ECPL Supporter Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Come to think of it. and at the end. Both League games were midweek with tamarside containing players from a higher league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Surely it is time that the Rule was looked at and maybe at least enforced.There is mention of the spirit of the law and it seems that some Clubs are prepared to treat it all with contempt. If it is so well acknowledged why hasn't someone complained to the Management Committee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peppermint Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 I would very much doubt that Tamarside's team that played Torpoint earler in the season contained as many players from other clubs as they did against the 'G'. Another point if Tamarside having been doing this all season then do they have any of their regular players and what happens when the regulars are left out for the new non regular players. Not blaming the players involved because if they can earn some extra money then good luck to them. Would be interesting to get a viewpoint from a Tamarside spokesperson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandson of Jimbo Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Both the ECPL posters on here seem so well informed but also so full of bias towards the Devon teams and so full of disrespect towards the Godolphin team,at the end of the day the Godolphin players are all from the Newquay area and most of them have played in the same team for a good number of years,yes they may have one new edition to the team but certainly not 7 or 8 ringers for one of the most important matches of the season as Tamerside did. The Godolphin Atlantic are probably the most succsesful Pub sides in the County over the past few years so i think they have earned the right for some respect,and that is not being given by ECPL a so called rep for this Cornwall/Devon? League. :c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 earn some extra money What are you suggesting? They got paid as well as having the pleasure of playing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ECPL Supporter Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Not being biassed, just saying how it was. There were 4 or 5 earlier in the season, but like i said BOTH league games against torpoint not just 1. G are a great team, and will do well at the higher level next season, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sport Lover Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 In some respects football has itself to blame for these problems and could easily solve them. Dont allow players to play for other clubs. (Does rugby or any other sports allow players to play for other clubs?, I know hockey would never allow it) Shorten the season so it doesnt over run into the cricket season therefore giving some teams a player shortage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Baptist Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Nobody at Tamarside gets paid. FACT!! Infact while we're on the subject do any teams in the ECPL get paid. I wouldn't have thought so!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakey Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 well Lanreath managed to beat these "ringers" 2-1 today so....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek martyn Posted May 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Well done to Morwenstowe today who held us to a draw fair and square !! We wish them well for next season. Congratulations to Torpoint on winning the ECPL title from everybody at Godolphin Atlantic F C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus xi Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Hakey, how's it going at dobwalls? or lanreath? Lanreath I think are the up and coming, watch this space :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I'm sorry Grandson if Jimbo but you don't seem to read any of the responses, you have it in your head that everyone including me is against Godolphin. And every cornish club unless it is Torpoint. You would not look so silly if you actually read my positings. Unfortunately you will never change your mind even though you are wrong, so lets agree to disagree on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budetownfcbicks Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 good luck to godolphin, class side and should do well in a higher division. somehow we beat them this year tho in the league cup, wel we played awsum wit an average team age of 17 and a half lol. well done to torpiont to be fair they did top the division for most of the season. and how did morwenstow get a draw wit godolphin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peppermint Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I would suggest that Morwenstow got a draw with Godolphin because they scored the same number of goals!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab15 Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 like hakey said, lanreath beat tamarside with the same players in the side that played against godolphin. Tamarside good bunch of lads though. How is your manager feeling?! :drink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bhcm Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 more bullshit ,,,,,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willser ! Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Is this the Lanreath side with half of Dobwalls in their side towards the end of the season ! ! Ha ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakey Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 half of dobwalls???? 2 actually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab15 Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 yeh just the two! and these players actually had to work to get into the team. whats more bullshit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metts Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 i would like to thamk every one aqnd john hake for tonight worthly winners and respect is earnrd and what a season we have had good luck to you all what a great game tonight and dino at torpoint were after u next season mets# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnie bates Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Just like to mention that in certain leagues, if the game has a bearing on promotion or relegation only players that have played a number of games previous can play. Like someone mentioned Tamerside did nothing wrong because the rules are not in place to stop players form 5 or 6 different clubs playing. Well done to the G great run club and good luck next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ECPL Supporter Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 [ dino at torpoint were after u next season mets# You'll have a fight, few clubs after him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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