SWPL - Wednesday April 11 2018

[Dave Deacon]

2 minutes ago, El Nino said:

If any club wants to play in the pyramid they should be forced to take promotion. If you don't want to take promotion then play in local league.

Have to agree with you on this one, although let's not forget it hasn't been just Cornish clubs that have declined to go up since the formation of the SWPL!

[SCFC]

40 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said:

Have to agree with you on this one, although let's not forget it hasn't been just Cornish clubs that have declined to go up since the formation of the SWPL!

everyone seems to be forgetting Tavistock declined LAST SEASON. Seems to have been glossed over! although, cant deny that if clubs are competing in leagues, whats the point in doing well and then not taking promotion?

[secretscout]

1 hour ago, El Nino said:

If any club wants to play in the pyramid they should be forced to take promotion. If you don't want to take promotion then play in local league.

Seems rather rich now El Nino.  Didn't Parkway win the league a couple years ago and not take promotion?  Or are you saying that when you won it a few years ago, you should've been forced to make the step up?

[quiksilver]

Maybe not force them to take promotion, but certainly feel if a club wins the league in a pyramid system and declines promotion should not be allowed to enter the next season FA cup and FA vase competitions 

[Rob1978]

When Parkway declined promotion they made it quite clear that playing at a higher level remained the long term goal. I would respect the likes of Bodmin more if they at least had the long term ambition of improving the club. If a club genuinely can’t afford to take the step up, then I’m sympathetic. However when a club spends  lots of money season in season out, signing players from higher ranked clubs, to win the same old trophies, whilst clogging up the pyramid, thats not so good. Take promotion, play the kids, reduce the playing budget. What’s the worst that can happen? You drop back to step 6 and at least gave it a go!!

[El Nino]

20 hours ago, secretscout said:

Seems rather rich now El Nino.  Didn't Parkway win the league a couple years ago and not take promotion?  Or are you saying that when you won it a few years ago, you should've been forced to make the step up?

It was wrong then and it is wrong now. There is absolutely no point in playing in the pyramid if you do not take promotion. (And this isn't a Cornwall/Devon thing - it is just wrong full stop).

 

 

[Dan Balsdon]

I think the thing that annoys people is when clubs say they can't afford to go up yet have a healthy playing budget.

Buckland geographically are well positioned but for them to be the only team to take promotion is unhealthy.

Parkway will deservedly win the league this year and go up but it will be interesting to see if their personnel changes hugely next year if there is such an issue with travelling. 

I was discussing the splits in league's yesterday and wonder whether people may look for more local players with more sensible budgets or whether the bigger clubs continue to spend large sums for success. 

[Easyyyy]

Couldn't agree more with the comment above. If the top clubs who gain promotion took £10 off of each players money each game, then they would get £120-£160 a week which should all but cover the travelling for every away game! You may have to make improvements to grounds etc, but that's no different to the SWPL West - SWPL Prem, and the likes of Helston, Godolphin, Camelford, Callington, Stoke Gabriel etc have all managed to funds these improvements, and I'm sure that floodlights aren't cheap either!

If players don't want to travel, then there are plenty more available. Most teams in Cornwall & Devon that play in these leagues will either be in close proximity to or will bypass the likes of Plymouth, Exeter, Bristol etc when travelling to the games in the higher divisions, so the selection of players would be greater!

[Hetty]

Totally disagree with some of the comments above, Whats the point in going up if you need to cut the playing budget to fund the travelling therefore making the side less competitive on the pitch, just so you can morally say '' oh we gave it go''.  This isnt about Moralls, its about keeping your football club as healthy as possible both on and off the pitch. As I have mentioned before, while there are teams in the SWPL willing to pay players more for staying local ( devon and cornwall) its a non starter. 

I sympathise with clubs down this part of the world as geographiclly it just makes it too difficult to do. Good luck to parkway, will be interesting to see the height of their ambition compared to the actual reality of what they can achive

[Easyyyy]

Clubs shouldn't be paying players anywhere near the amount they get anyway. Sides shouldn't be less competitive on the pitch if their players get £80 a game rather than £100! If players don't want to play after having a minimal 'pay cut' then it's not in the clubs interest to keep them anyway if they want to stay 'healthy'.

[Rob1978]

Paying the same players to win the same trophies is hardly keeping your club healthy. Supporters soon loose interest when a clubs shows no ambition. At the Bodmin v Parkway game it was mostly away supporters. Bodmin support has dried up. Yes they might lose  some players if they went up but a team of youngsters playing at a higher level would generate more interest. Ambition without being financially reckless is what keeps any club healthy. Up country step 6 players pay subs. Hengrove play western league with no playing budget. Cornish football has its priorities wrong which is why it’s dying. It needs a couple of bigger clubs to take the punt of promotion instead of paying players the big bucks. There are players who will take a pay cut to play at the highest they can. Buckland for example are not big payers and have done well. Bodmin/St Austell should try and emulate them instead of trying to poach their players. 

[Fanfare]

The FA should step in and assist with travelling expenses for clubs further afield then most. But they won't because if it's not on their radar.

[quiksilver]

37 minutes ago, Fanfare said:

The FA should step in and assist with travelling expenses for clubs further afield then most. But they won't because if it's not on their radar.

Why should the FA give money to clubs who fork out stupid amounts of money for players every week? It’s well known some clubs fork out anything from £50-£100 per game for some players. If clubs want to line players pockets rather than look to progress up the pyramid, that’s not the FA’s fault!

[Fanfare]

6 hours ago, quiksilver said:

Why should the FA give money to clubs who fork out stupid amounts of money for players every week? It’s well known some clubs fork out anything from £50-£100 per game for some players. If clubs want to line players pockets rather than look to progress up the pyramid, that’s not the FA’s fault!

Whether clubs pay silly money or not, the unique position and geography of the south west means clubs are screwed if they want to progress.

Silly money has been paid out for years, mostly in brown envelopes but if a club genuinely wants to progress, then sometimes success has to be bought. The powers in their ivory towers could help towards expenses but only contributory. Teams like Truro going to Braintree or Blyth travelling to Worcester should get some remuneration. Just my opinion.