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Just now, digger1000 said:

Would get bigger crowds and I think teams would stay for a drink/food more often 

they don’t hang about much if they’ve got an hours drive back to st Erme or probus etc

 

Some good points , but  the West Penwith league had to join the mining league because of a lack of clubs and some teams playing each other quite a few times to get games ,  eg cup competition , played amor shield , west Penwith and mining and enjoyed them all ,  we enjoyed the traveling in the mining league when we joined visiting new grounds , eleven jammed into two cars , with balls ,kit either in the boot or on everyone's  lap . Saturdays was about football playing and listening to the radio for results , no live league televised games , games played at three on a Saturday . Going back to your opponents pub for banter , food a beer  . Now how many work weekends ? Weekends are just a normal part of work pattern ,  students have to make ends meet so work part-time jobs , you have to be sixteen to play adult football .  Players move clubs now  because more have transportation , Social media , live football , games consoles , mobile phones ,  shopping with their partners , in Cornwall surfing , go to any storm beach on a weekend and you can't move for surfers , skateboarding , with lots of good facilities around and mainly free , football alongside rugby and cricket are losing teams,  players . How many go to the gym ? You can go early in the morning or late at night  and as many times as you want. Football isn't the be all and end all I am afraid , it will get worse before it evens out , lots of clubs teams rely on volunteers but when you travel around you see the same faces behind the scenes year after year they are getting older and it is hard today to replace them , we all have so much going on in our lives , society has changed we are more insular it started in the eighties won't get to political on s football forum , we all know teams and clubs , including well established ones that have gone . We will be having this discussion every season for a while yet , shame but true .:(

Just now, digger1000 said:

Travelling is another massive off put these days

im sure you wouldn’t have all these problems if sennen were back playing pendeen in the West penwith league and marazion were playing madron in the amor shield....just take a look and see we’re some clubs have got to travel to play in a junior football match,it’s ridiculous!

teams in and around the Truro/Falmouth shouldn’t be travelling to mousehole,st just 

to play in the trelawny league 

But the pyramid system had to be implemented , which has helped ambitious clubs like , Carharack , West Cornwall , Pendeen  and Ludgvan to progress .

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To much organised youth football for me, by the time they are 16 they have been playing organised football for ten years.

They then want something different, not just what their dad wants.....and everything was given to them for ten years - no work effort any more.

The kids of today have had it all given to them, they don't have to build anything anymore.

And a lot of todays football supporters think football is all about watching it on the TV.

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8 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

To much organised youth football for me, by the time they are 16 they have been playing organised football for ten years.

They then want something different, not just what their dad wants.....and everything was given to them for ten years - no work effort any more.

The kids of today have had it all given to them, they don't have to build anything anymore.

And a lot of todays football supporters think football is all about watching it on the TV.

Older going around clubs locally more people are thinking the same way , speaking to a customer as a coach his sons team haven't stopped playing all year with tournament football through the summer in the so called off season .:wacko:

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14 hours ago, digger1000 said:

Travelling is another massive off put these days

im sure you wouldn’t have all these problems if sennen were back playing pendeen in the West penwith league and marazion were playing madron in the amor shield....just take a look and see we’re some clubs have got to travel to play in a junior football match,it’s ridiculous!

teams in and around the Truro/Falmouth shouldn’t be travelling to mousehole,st just 

to play in the trelawny league 

Fair point made here by Digger1000 with regards to the travelling,  at St Erme this season we have so far travelled to Lizard, Ruan Minor, St Just and Marazion (to play Mousehole) and have Newlyn away next week and this is all within the 1st couple of months of the season and most players are from the other side of Truro, add to that we still have a further trip to St Buryan to come too!!!!  Madness!!!

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32 minutes ago, jolzy10 said:

Fair point made here by Digger1000 with regards to the travelling,  at St Erme this season we have so far travelled to Lizard, Ruan Minor, St Just and Marazion (to play Mousehole) and have Newlyn away next week and this is all within the 1st couple of months of the season and most players are from the other side of Truro, add to that we still have a further trip to St Buryan to come too!!!!  Madness!!!

Count yourselves lucky to have got so much of your long distance travels done so early in the season, during the mild weather. Your opponents have to come to you in the bleak midwinter. It may well be madness but what would we do without it?

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1 hour ago, jolzy10 said:

Fair point made here by Digger1000 with regards to the travelling,  at St Erme this season we have so far travelled to Lizard, Ruan Minor, St Just and Marazion (to play Mousehole) and have Newlyn away next week and this is all within the 1st couple of months of the season and most players are from the other side of Truro, add to that we still have a further trip to St Buryan to come too!!!!  Madness!!!

I think this is the main problem that teams are short/folding .

i know lots that get asked ‘can you play Saturday mate we’ve got 10’

possibly we’re are we ?

er umm st keverne away!

no f r off!!

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Bruegel the Elder said:

Count yourselves lucky to have got so much of your long distance travels done so early in the season, during the mild weather. Your opponents have to come to you in the bleak midwinter. It may well be madness but what would we do without it?

Yeah there is that I suppose Bruegel, just a pain when they are so close together, would be nice to break them up a little!! 

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On 02/11/2017 at 08:03, St Darren said:

Are there also less ‘locals’ around now. I grew up in St Agnes and spent all my childhood there and always wanted to play for the village. Does that happen now with the influx of second home owners and people living somewhere but kids schooling elsewhere? 

Agree with this in some aspects apart from st agnes as they have 3 teams plus a womens side plus youth sides and a disabled side i believe. But think this more comes down to playing with friends and other reasons for teams struggling. Aka playing time. Traveling as less ppl seem to be willing to give lifts. Team spirit in general just not being there. Less volunteers. Cost of running a team. Sadly going to get alot worse before it does better.

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15 minutes ago, Leehh said:

Traveling as less ppl seem to be willing to give lifts.

Is that becase the players come from a larger area B), just want to play and get home :mellow:, or are a miserable bunch? :P

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When I was playing in the seconds. We had a squad of 14/15 every week and probably 12 of us lived in the village and others had connections. I think it’s the same nowadays with the seconds and thirds. But not so much for the first team or the ladies team! The club so incredibly well to field what they do through the hard work and reputation of a few individuals. 

But for other villages is this the case? I live in chacewater now and I don’t see the numbers of younger males around 

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32 minutes ago, St Darren said:

When I was playing in the seconds. We had a squad of 14/15 every week and probably 12 of us lived in the village and others had connections. I think it’s the same nowadays with the seconds and thirds. But not so much for the first team or the ladies team! The club so incredibly well to field what they do through the hard work and reputation of a few individuals. 

But for other villages is this the case? I live in chacewater now and I don’t see the numbers of younger males around 

Quite alot of young males in st agnes. But lets just say most of them are into a different kind of white line

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Ironic that you mention St Agnes Daz, as that seems to be where the majority of Chacewaters good 1st team players of last year are now playing!! Not enough young men in aggie by the look of it. 

Disappointing to see a club with so much history and hard working committee folding, but as everyone has said, a sign of the times.

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6 hours ago, Ron Manager said:

Ironic that you mention St Agnes Daz, as that seems to be where the majority of Chacewaters good 1st team players of last year are now playing!! Not enough young men in aggie by the look of it. 

Disappointing to see a club with so much history and hard working committee folding, but as everyone has said, a sign of the times.

Yeah that is true Phil. I think there’s 4 or 5 aren’t there? But unfortunately you can make players play can you. 

Shows I suppose that possibly St Agnes are running out of locals as well!!!

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On 11/2/2017 at 07:12, stevieb said:

Older going around clubs locally more people are thinking the same way , speaking to a customer as a coach his sons team haven't stopped playing all year with tournament football through the summer in the so called off season

Absolutely agree. My son's team trained or played tournaments all through the summer. As much as he was delighted to be playing football, by the time he is 16 will probably have had enough and other 'distractions' may well take precedence.

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2 hours ago, footienut said:

Absolutely agree. My son's team trained or played tournaments all through the summer. As much as he was delighted to be playing football, by the time he is 16 will probably have had enough and other 'distractions' may well take precedence.

See Mabe folding on another thread , shame .

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On 11/4/2017 at 20:37, St Darren said:

Yeah that is true Phil. I think there’s 4 or 5 aren’t there? But unfortunately you can make players play can you. 

Shows I suppose that possibly St Agnes are running out of locals as well!!!

I think that there are currently 8 players registered with Aggie now Darren who were registered with Chacewater last season,mostly Reserve Team [players although some are with the Thirds.

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