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Dave Deacon

SWPL & Senior Cup - Saturday 7th October 2017

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PREMIER DIVISION
Cullompton Rangers    2,    Witheridge        0    
Falmouth Town        2,    Torpoint Athletic    0    
Ivybridge Town        0,    Exmouth Town    2    
Launceston    3,    Camelford    1
Tavistock    6,    Stoke Gabriel    2


DIVISION ONE WEST
Millbrook    11,    Bude Town    1


CORNWALL SENIOR CUP 1ST ROUND
Callington Town    5,    St Just    0
Godolphin Atlantic    1,    Bodmin Town    4
Hayle    3,    Wadebridge Town    2
Illogan RBL    5,    Morwenstow    0
Liskeard Athletic    4,    Ludgvan    3
Looe Town   OFF   Porthleven (Looe unable to raise side)
Newquay    5,    Padstow    0
Perranporth    4,    Helston Athletic    2
Roche    0,    Penzance    7
St Agnes    0,    Sticker    6
St Austell    11,    Mullion    0
St Day    2,    St Blazey    4
St Dennis    7,    Redruth United    0
St Minver    2,    Dobwalls    4
St Teath    0,     Saltash United    15
Wendron United    3,    Perranwell    1


DEVON PREMIER CUP 2ND ROUND
Axminster Town    1,    Torrington    1 (Axminster win AET and penalties 7-6)
Bere Alston    OFF    Plymstock United    waterlogged pitch 
Budleigh Salterton    2,    Cronies    1
East Allington    1,    Newton Abbot Spurs    5    
Elburton Villa    5,    Alphington    0
Galmpton & Roselands    1,    Teignmouth   5    
Honiton Town    4,    Beer Albion     3
Ilfracombe Town    4,    Newtown    0
Kingsteignton Athletic    0,    Holsworthy     1
Loddiswell    0,    University of Exeter    5
Okehampton Argyle    3,    Appledore    1
Paignton Villa    0,    Crediton United    4
Plymouth Hope        0,    Brixham    15
Plympton Athletic    2,    Plymouth Marjon    1
Sidmouth Town        3,    Navy Inn    4
The Windmill    0,    Bovey Tracey    4    
Topsham Town        2,    St Martins    7
Torridgeside   OFF   Liverton United (Liverton unable to raise side)

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25 minutes ago, zebedee said:

Hope the league watch closely as if 1st team cant play surely 2nds cant either ????

Always an interesting issue for debate this one. In principal you would hope the reserve team players would step up and fulfil the first team fixture at the expense of their own game but in reality of course :- 

you can't force any players to do that
you would only be unfairly penalising the reserve team
and does it serve any real purpose to have Duchy Four players up against a good Combination side in the Senior Cup and another Duchy Four team be awarded a game that they would have wanted to have played today ?

We can only hope that Looe do the right thing and play their normal reserve team squad in their Duchy match and don't make use of the two 'senior' players that they could use.

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10 minutes ago, quiksilver said:

Simple, ban them from entering senior cup next year 

Teams don't 'enter' the Senior (or Junior) Cup - it is compulsory as is the large payment to the CCFA for the privilege.  For a lot of clubs it is a big expense and is not held as a must for players - remembering that ECPL and Combo are NOT 'senior' clubs and still classed a recreational football - they are only involved in the Senior cup as included by the CCFA - and a lot of that has to do with numbers and funds.  In short if they got banned it probably wouldnt worry them and other clubs would do it next year - sad but true. 

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21 minutes ago, Bobjfh said:

Teams don't 'enter' the Senior (or Junior) Cup - it is compulsory as is the large payment to the CCFA for the privilege.  For a lot of clubs it is a big expense and is not held as a must for players - remembering that ECPL and Combo are NOT 'senior' clubs and still classed a recreational football - they are only involved in the Senior cup as included by the CCFA - and a lot of that has to do with numbers and funds.  In short if they got banned it probably wouldnt worry them and other clubs would do it next year - sad but true. 

Interest in the senior cup generally has diminished over the past 10 years and it is no longer a showpiece.

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2 hours ago, BIG AL said:

Interest in the senior cup generally has diminished over the past 10 years and it is no longer a showpiece.

I would disagree, with parkway seemingly running away with the league and Argyle making a mockery of it, the senior cup is the only real chance of silverware for the Cornish swpl clubs. I know of some clubs/managers/fans that would rather win the Cornwall senior cup as opposed to the league

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Perranporth 4-2 Helston

well done perran thoroughly deserved not much football in there team but wanted it much more than helston who's back line  were frankly embarrassing all game . Much better when the subs came on second half even then though the back line felt it was better to slag them off than take responsibility for there own mistakes. 

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33 minutes ago, quiksilver said:

I would disagree, with parkway seemingly running away with the league and Argyle making a mockery of it, the senior cup is the only real chance of silverware for the Cornish swpl clubs. I know of some clubs/managers/fans that would rather win the Cornwall senior cup as opposed to the league

Quite honestly, I think the attendances at cup final day prove how disinterested people are compared to 10 years ago. Going back to the 70s I can remember going to St Austell to watch the final and it was difficult to find a space to stand and view it. It is such a shame. I also feel that settling the rounds on the day rather than a replay dislodges interest.

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47 minutes ago, MARKSY said:

Perranporth 4-2 Helston

well done perran thoroughly deserved not much football in there team but wanted it much more than helston who's back line  were frankly embarrassing all game . Much better when the subs came on second half even then though the back line felt it was better to slag them off than take responsibility for there own mistakes. 

Not much football? Played helston off the park, if it wasn’t for helston keeper would of been 6 or 7! 

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5 hours ago, zebedee said:

Do your rules not state that 1st team fixture must be played before any other team can play , regardless of the situation ?? 

That's basically the FA Standard Code Rule which only applies to  'recreational' league  matches and doesn't operate across different Leagues or for the County Cups.

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Launceston 3 - Camelford 1

Three more good points for the Clarets today, sorry that I missed it.  Up to 5th in the table - what a change from last season. Well done Launceston and well done Gary Jeffery.  

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4 hours ago, BIG AL said:

Quite honestly, I think the attendances at cup final day prove how disinterested people are compared to 10 years ago. Going back to the 70s I can remember going to St Austell to watch the final and it was difficult to find a space to stand and view it. It is such a shame. I also feel that settling the rounds on the day rather than a replay dislodges interest.

This is just in general I think. People don't find going to watch a random game of local football any fun these days. Loads on the TV for people to watch, so why travel and pay when you can sit in the front room. It's the same with cricket, for the first time this season our 4th team had to pull out of 3 games, due to not being able to raise a side. Interest going south in all local sport

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2 hours ago, leedsunited said:

What happened to Wadebridge.....losing at Hayle...with their recent league slump....problems at Bodieve? 

They lost fair and square ,close first half  but Hayle had more chances second ha!f and a hell of a save from their keeper kept the score down , great win , good team performance , down to 9 men late on for Hayle , Big Al try telling the Hayle players the senior cup doesn't matter after today , lots of kids playing on the 3 g as well  , revamped changing rooms , bar great day for Hayle AFC and well done to everyone involved behind the scenes , and to those in the past who had the foresight to move from Ellis park in the not to distant past , Great day all round .

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Good win in a potential banana skin over Perranwell for Wendron today, winning 3-1. 

16 year old Cameron Wheat, assistant manager: O'Neill and another for Stocker with the goals. 

Just as an aside a massive well done to our ground staff who managed to get three home fixtures on today with our firsts, seconds and thirds all fixtured at home. 

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10 hours ago, Lloydy said:

This is just in general I think. People don't find going to watch a random game of local football any fun these days. Loads on the TV for people to watch, so why travel and pay when you can sit in the front room. It's the same with cricket, for the first time this season our 4th team had to pull out of 3 games, due to not being able to raise a side. Interest going south in all local sport

All above is correct and there still be new teams trying to get in to the leagues.They get accepted then fold .Sport in general is doomed,society and the youth of today have changed and the sooner clubs/people get their heads round this the better they will be !!!!

Evolve or dissolve!!

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11 hours ago, Lloydy said:

This is just in general I think. People don't find going to watch a random game of local football any fun these days. Loads on the TV for people to watch, so why travel and pay when you can sit in the front room. It's the same with cricket, for the first time this season our 4th team had to pull out of 3 games, due to not being able to raise a side. Interest going south in all local sport

I cant agree Lloydy. Yes there is a lot of sport on TV, but personally I find the amount of advertising and hype, together with all the replays of goals, wickets falling, fouls, near misses etc,  replayed and replayed, and more and more advertising just too much. I'm seriously thinking of ditching sky sport on TV. 

Personally I prefer to watch local sport. When on holiday recently in Dumfries and Galloway - come the Saturday I went off to watch the Scottish League 2 match between Annan Athletic and Cowdenbeath. It was a bright but chilly sunny day, the match which Annan won 1-0, was hard fought by both sides and all in all it was an enjoyable afternoon. New all seater football stand, nice people and a nice afternoon out. In my book you can't beat that. :)

1 hour ago, digger1000 said:

All above is correct and there still be new teams trying to get in to the leagues.They get accepted then fold .Sport in general is doomed,society and the youth of today have changed and the sooner clubs/people get their heads round this the better they will be !!!!

Evolve or dissolve!!

Don't agree digger. Sport in general is not doomed. What is doomed, is the ridiculous amounts of money professional sports people are payed - especially Premier league footballers. It cannot continue.

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You can disagree Kieth, your opinion is your own. I just have many friends, age 30 and below, who couldn't give less of a s**t about local sport. I'm like you, and go to many local football and cricket matches, and would rather do that than sit on my sofa watching the TV, but we are the minority, and it's only getting worse. At the moment there is MNF, Champs League or League  Cup Tues and Weds, Europa League Thurs, Championship Fri, then lunchtime kick off, Geoff and the boys and the evening kick off on a Saturday, then Super Sunday. You talk about pros getting paid a ridiculous amount, it's the fans funding it, and whilst there are more fans sat at home watching this will only continue to rise. 

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1 hour ago, Lloydy said:

You can disagree Kieth, your opinion is your own. I just have many friends, age 30 and below, who couldn't give less of a s**t about local sport. I'm like you, and go to many local football and cricket matches, and would rather do that than sit on my sofa watching the TV, but we are the minority, and it's only getting worse. At the moment there is MNF, Champs League or League  Cup Tues and Weds, Europa League Thurs, Championship Fri, then lunchtime kick off, Geoff and the boys and the evening kick off on a Saturday, then Super Sunday. You talk about pros getting paid a ridiculous amount, it's the fans funding it, and whilst there are more fans sat at home watching this will only continue to rise. 

Agree there is loads of sport on TV Lloydy - but it's the advertising revenue and TV rites that fund the wages. If they had to rely on the money through the turnstiles, the footballers would be back on proportionate wages and looking for summer jobs, as they did in the years when I was playing years ago. 

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          Saturday 7th October 2017

 

     Saltash United  v St Teath(away)Cornwall Senior Cup

                

Saltash United line-up:Ryan Rickard,Dave Barker,Callum Martindale,Danny Lewis(c),Sam Leary,Dave Trott,Jamie Bass,Sam Farrant,Sam Hughes,Ryan Richards,Lewis Young.

Subs used:Paul Heveran for Jamie Bass(16 mins),Henry Wilson for Sam Farrant(60 mins)& Tom King for Lewis Young(60mins)

Unused subs:Steve Sargison & Chris Menhenick.

Bookings:None.

Result:St Teath 0  Saltash United 15 

Scorers:Richards 4(11,42,80 & 86)Hughes 3(30,40 66),

Heveran 3(20,70 & 83),Young 2(37 & 55),Trott(34 pen),

Farrant(46) & King(62).

Referee:Adrian Clements

 

 On a wet afternoon on a very good playing surface the Ashes cruised into the next round of the Cornwall Senior Cup.St Teath worked hard for the whole of the 90 minutes but the Ashes were much fitter than their East Cornwall League opponents.The home keeper was on top form and made some really good saves and if it was not for him the score would have been even higher.

 The Ashes took the lead on 11 minutes when from a Dave Barker cross Ryan Richards headed home at the far post.On 20 minutes it was 2-0 when Dave Trott played in Paul Heveran who lobbed the on rushing keeper.On the half hour mark it was 3-0 when Sam Farrant set up Sam Hughes for his first goal.Five minutes later the Ashes were awarded a penalty from which Dave Trott Scored(4-0).Another 2 minutes on the clock and a Paul Heveran cross is headed home by Lewis Young(5-0).On 40 minutes it's 6-0 when Hughes scores his second of the game.With 3 minutes to go to half-time Richards heads in number 7.

 One minute into the second half and Sam Farrant makes it 8-0.Ten minutes into the half and Young makes it(9-0).Sub-

stitute Tom King adds number 10 on 62 minutes and 4 minutes later Hughes completes his hattrick.Heveran makes it 12-0 with still 20 minutes to go.Richards completes his hattrick

on 80 minutes and two minutes later Heveran scored from the edge of the area for his hattrick and the Ashes 14th.There was still time for Richards to add number 15 for the Ashes and his 4th with still 4 minutes to go.

 The only down side for the Ashes was an injury to Jamie Bass in the first 16 minutes which made it necessary for an early substitution.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Keith B said:

Agree there is loads of sport on TV Lloydy - but it's the advertising revenue and TV rites that fund the wages. If they had to rely on the money through the turnstiles, the footballers would be back on proportionate wages and looking for summer jobs, as they did in the years when I was playing years ago. 

TV rites and revenue from that, come from people paying Sky/BT Sports to sit in their own front room to view this, surely? Money through the turnstiles isn't the only way that they make money, so why should they only use this to find players fees and wages? In proportion, are you saying that Parkway, Tavi, Bodmin, St Austell, who pay more wages than the rest of the SWPL (rumours that may be), only use the money from the people who go and pay on the gate to watch the game? I really don't think so? 

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12 hours ago, Lloydy said:

TV rites and revenue from that, come from people paying Sky/BT Sports to sit in their own front room to view this, surely? Money through the turnstiles isn't the only way that they make money, so why should they only use this to find players fees and wages? In proportion, are you saying that Parkway, Tavi, Bodmin, St Austell, who pay more wages than the rest of the SWPL (rumours that may be), only use the money from the people who go and pay on the gate to watch the game? I really don't think so? 

No sir - if they are getting paid to play, then that money surely must be from sponsorship from outside as well as inside the clubs. If the club's only source of income was through the turnstiles, then they could not afford to pay the money that allegedly they do to players. 

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