cornishteddyboy Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 http://www.piratefm....tures-revealed/ http://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/10027462.Plans_for_new___16_5_million_Stadium_for_Cornwall_revealed/?ref=mr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 Bring it on! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 As before with Dicky and Ginge, no problem with S4C, as long as they do not expect public funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 If necessary a certain amount of public funding should be made available, the development would benefit the youth of Cornwall and contribute greatly to the Duchy's future prosperity, this is a vision for tomorrows people and should not be held back by those who have had their day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 Well said mountaineer, this could be just what we need. Hopefully it goes ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 Same arguments going round in circles. No benefit to anyone other than the Pirates now that City are almost gone. It would be waste of Tax-Payers money which is why Dicky & Ginge didn't put up the funds when they had them. Now one of them has run off with a swag bag over his shoulder, the County should be grateful they did not get into bed with him. No Public funds for Pirates Stadium, if they want a ground big enough for Prem Rugby, Dicky should buy Penlee Park from Penzance AFC and develop it, keeping rugby where it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truros mr mourinho Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 well penzance f.c are getting the same scores that you get in a rugby match. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 You cross the Tamar and tribalism is thrown out of the window, Exeter Chiefs with the councils agreement has grown into a Premiership club the whole of Devon is proud of, that should happen in Cornwall. Built with vision the stadium could house many sporting and other groups to make it a seven day place to go, rooms for use by scouts, guides, boxing, maybe a BMX track adjoining the stadium, rooms could be made available for Treliske Hospital to hold clinics, facilities for mother and toddler groups and much much more a community place to be. If councils do not get involved Cornwall will always retain a backwater image, had a stadium been in place the Pirates would probably have attracted a few more players to ensure Premiership status, until the facilities are there that will not be the case I can never see a Stadium for Cornwall being of any use for Truro City Football Club, unlike the rugby they could not attract the crowds to raise the atmosphere above morgue proportions, Leading up to any proposed development people should ask themselves what can it be used for apart from rugby, many social groups would doubtless be interested in having a slice of the action. It is strange the reaction in different parts of the country towards council's spending cash, a village 6 miles from me put a skateboard and BMX facility in the village, some villagers complained because it became too popular and it annoyed them, the council have listened and are taking action to improve things, first they are buying a Wood for around £10,000 so the youngsters have tracks for their bikes and a facility for skateboarding, no one complained about the council using taxpayers money and that in the HIGHEST taxed area in the whole of Britain. When I was at Treyew Road last Saturday people were complaining about Truro Council bringing in residents parking, up in arms they were, here in High Wycombe we have had residents parking for over FORTY (40) years, it was the best thing to be introduced, reasonably priced for the resident and cheap tickets available should they have visitors, gone were the days when popping out for a while they could not return to their own street. It's progress probably in Truro's case 40 years too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberfalman Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 It's a stadium for Truro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 It's a stadium for Truro. Confirms what I mentioned above TRIBALISM. :SM_carton: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 There is no demand for a Stadium from 99% of the population of Cornwall, the majority should not be bullied by the few who want something for nothing (a sentiment I'm sure that Mountaineer would agree with). If Dicky wants a Stadium, let him pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 There is no demand for a Stadium from 99% of the population of Cornwall, the majority should not be bullied by the few who want something for nothing (a sentiment I'm sure that Mountaineer would agree with). If Dicky wants a Stadium, let him pay for it. Nemesis, Not so long ago when you were losing too many arguements you PM'd me pleading for a TRUCE, I agreed to let you off the hook, this is the second time recently you have attempted to restart hostilities, until you get your facts right there is no point bothering to restart hostilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOUNTAINEER Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 How many in Cornwall wanted the Tate at St Ives, Eden near St Austell or the Hall for Cornwall in Truro but they are there, before bandying unsubstantiated percentages about those using them should first ensure they are correct or relevant. If you have an area with 20000 residents and only 400 watch their local football team that's just 2% of the population, 600 would only be 3%, Peninsula league attendances suggest even lower percentages than those shown, whichever way you look at it a small number of the population, it would be unfair to say to the teams they follow that the council will not prepare any more pitches for them at a nominal rent, usually much less than it costs to prepare them because the majority of ratepayers are not interested. Percentage figures of any population doesn't work without commonsense being used creating them, regarding football you could discount babies and small children a parent looking after them, people who are ill, the elderly with failing health, then you have the fact that considerably more men than women attend football, taking all those factors into consideration and it shows how foolhardy it is to use percentages in such matters. Using that or similar parameters and we could do away with EVERYTHING. I think with rugby the attendance percentages for Pirates games is much higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Please read my posts again, there is nothing personal, just my point of view on the Pirates Stadium. I disagree with any public funds being used for what is a private sports team owned by one man - your position is different, just a normal debate with opposite views. All the points that were raised in the previous debate when City were the potential 2nd tenant, still stand. The Council did the right thing and rejected the funding request, nothing has changed so why those who seek a Stadium are dragging this up again is beyond me. Different stadium being proposed, just a 10,000 seater, but the principal in the same. If Pirates want a stadium, they can pay for it with private partnerships, not taxpayers money which at this time is in very short supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 There is no demand for a Stadium from 99% of the population of Cornwall I would say that 42.59% are in favour of a stadium, 50.93% against and 6.48% don't care either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish-blue Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Watch this space ..... You heard it hear first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 What is the point of a big stadium for Cornish football no one supports it. Rugby different matter, up my way wadebridge fc tiny crowds wadebridge camels brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 You could argue the point that clubs on council pitches paying a peppercorn rent are subsidised with public money. There are an awful lot of theatres, clubs organisations etc being subsidised with public money - either by direct grant or as said peppercorn rents, if we actually knew what was going on we would be amazed and shocked. Hall for Cornwall, £500,000 per year for instance. Stadium for Cornwall.....how much would per annum would that be ???? The stadium would have a tenant/tenants so to speak paying a rent per annum ??? and subsidised again with public money ??? or could it make a profit. Not if it was run by the CCC. The stadium for Cornwall would be a white elephant for me, but, I would love to be proved wrong. Don't let CCC run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadcert Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Build the stadium and see how it goes!!! If it's not making any money flog it off for student digs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish-blue Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 The stadium for Cornwall would be a white elephant for me, but, I would love to be proved wrong. Don't let CCC run it. Trust me CCC will not be running it , all will be revealed soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 No public money for private ventures, noses in troughs etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I'm surprised that Nemesis hasn't said that Cornwall doesn't need a stadium because it already has one! Newquay changed the name of their ground to 'Mount Wise Stadium' some time ago. However, I must admit that it's difficult to imagine anything that look less like a stadium than Mount Wise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Hoop Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Have to say not the best ground to play at! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 But at least it`s theirs. if it`s not I am sure somebody will correct me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 But at least it`s theirs. if it`s not I am sure somebody will correct me. I have always been told its a council ground on a peppercorn rent. If my memory serves me correctly didn't it come up on the forum some time ago with Bodmin, Porthleven and others on council owned grounds ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornishMaid Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I have always avoided any controversy on this Forum, but I would like to enlighten viewers of the history of Newquay Football Club's Mount Wise ground which is council owned and somehow has become a subject on this forum. The land was originally intended to be used as allotments after the First World War. Newquay is not renowned for large flat areas, so the then Newquay Urban District Council in 1922 applied to the Ministry of Health for permission to lease a piece of land to a club, the result of which is that Newquay played their first match at Mount Wise in August 1922. Mount Wise was used as an army truck depot during the Second World War. Thousands of stones were laid on the pitch which took many years to clear. Not a stadium for sure, but a piece of unenclosed land in diabolical condition. The point I am trying to make is that it is very easy to glibly criticise council owned grounds and their peppercorn rents. Who built and paid for the clubhouse, changing rooms, canteen, mower shed, floodlights, paths, fencing, and two new grandstand roofs? The members of Newquay Football Club of course, with no cost to the landlord and rate payers of Cornwall. I make these observations as someone who has worked for the club over 40 years and has first hand knowledge of what the club has achieved over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 No intention of denegrading what Newquay has or has not got, just stating a fact as I know it.What cannot be denied is peppercorn rents are subsidised by public money.Best of luck to you at Newquay, long may you continue, no harm intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 ST Just FC and other owners of grounds are already subsidising Smacktown council tenants at Penlee Park playing in front of three men and an abused dog. We don't need any more of this expensive rubbish, especally if it encourages egg-chasing. Those of you who regard yourself as part of a county dominated by the English have already sold out. Apart from Yorkshire, nobody else in England cares about counties as an indicator of identity anyway.Stuff Cornwall Rugby ! Couldn't care less ! However, if I had room on my fields at Joppa or in Marazion to build a national stadium for the People's Socialist Republic of St Just, I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Manning Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 isaac, out of interest how big would you see it being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltzingmatilda Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 isaac, out of interest how big would you see it being. It would need to be of some significant size just to fit Rodney's EGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Rodeney gets many things wrong and usually ends up with ego all over his face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 You could put something the size of Wembley just indie the bypass at Marazion as long as St Aubyn Estates are co-operative regarding access. However, there are one or two in Marazion who are not yet ready to be sequestered by the People's Socialist Republic, even though Grandfather kept their ancestors alive with butter and eggs one winter after he'd finished building Crowlas. No gratitude, these nimbys. I thought the place on the Mount would have been okay for my ego but the family refuse to scale down to such a poky little castle, unfortunately. On the other site, the charabancs would get stuck going up Joppa Lane. You could fit a few hundred in the field, however, at least if they weren't too fat, so that rules out those Penzance FC tellytubbies, unfortunately ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1951 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 just three words......DON VALLEY STADIUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaac rosenberg Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Yeah, Rotherham. Jamie Oliver got booed there because they liked their chicken drummers and chips. Ideal for the Pz tellytubbies, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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