Mr motivator Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Can someone please tell me what time kick off is tomorrow night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifty Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 According to another thread the game is off as Falmouth unable to raise a side. Surprising as that gives Culdrose a great chance of winning the division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr motivator Posted May 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 How come I don't understand, they have lots of players surely. If that's the case it's embarrassing for Falmouth. Can fal lad enlighten us?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tevez2011 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 PENRYN WILL GET THE POINT THEN WON'T THEY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fal lad Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Still waiting for a reply about tonights game to be honest, cant see how we cant raise a side really after the way we played saturday i for 1 am right up for the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tevez2011 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 FALMOUTH DEF WANTED IT CANCELED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Seems a bit odd in their position, they have had a really good season, and there are some good players there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BenTheYeti Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 ...this is just weird.. a top of the league side cancelling a game due to lack of players? Actually never thought I'd hear that one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Ranger Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Can anyone from the CCFA confirm if this game is to be awarded to Penryn? Surely a rearranged game wont happen, as stated before would send a dangerous message to clubs who will canc games if they lose key players.... Im sure loads of clubs in all leagues have at some stage honoured games when they have not been at full strength... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccer Follower Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 It's a Trelawny League decision not the CCFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Ranger Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 It's a Trelawny League decision not the CCFA. Didnt realise....still same question though, what will happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Should be allowed to rearrange it in my humble opinion. Although a reserve team is there to support the first team, at the end of the day, all teams are playing competitive football for a prize at the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natogreenvanman Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Sets a precedent though for the future if the league allow it, I'm sure most reserve clubs have had to field extremely under strength teams or play with bare eleven or even ten players! If as a club you haven't got enough players for 2 teams to play 2 games at the same time, firstly it's bad management but you then you face the punishment of not getting the points. Or have the rules suddenly changed? Looking forward to hearing an answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 so they could lose the league by default??? totally wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natogreenvanman Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Not default mate. Over the season we all play the same amount of games with strong sides / weak sides / bad weather etc all factored in. Leagues aren't won in the last game of the season!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadcert Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 County rules state that if you are unable to field a team due to lack of players you MUST field your 1st team therefore you have every right to postpone your reserve team game. Good luck to both teams when it,s re-fixtured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Not default mate. Over the season we all play the same amount of games with strong sides / weak sides / bad weather etc all factored in. Leagues aren't won in the last game of the season!! If a game isn't played then you've not played the same games have you?? if there's nothing riding on it, then fair enough. What would happen if it was a semi final or final and the first team had a game??? would the game be given to the other side??? its potentially the same scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natogreenvanman Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 According to the trelawney league rules, 2011/12, rule 10A : "original fixtures and any re arranged fixtures made by the fixture secretary for the months of April and may shall be deemed ordered matches and any club failing to comply shall forfeit 3 points to their opponents and be subject to a fine of £10." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Ranger Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Im sure all clubs who run reserve sides are suffering towards the end of the season not just Falmouth but is that not why we have squads? Im sure Culdrose may well have the same problem tonight with both of their sides playing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natogreenvanman Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 If a game isn't played then you've not played the same games have you?? if there's nothing riding on it, then fair enough. What would happen if it was a semi final or final and the first team had a game??? would the game be given to the other side??? its potentially the same scenario We all have the same fixtures over the season, whether you can field a side for every game or whether you have to forfeit the points if your unable to field a side is at the clubs discretion. It isn't a semi final or final so is irrelevant argument, and I wouldn't like to guess what would happen. I think it's extremely harsh for falmouth athletic with it being their last game and they can't do anything about it but if rules weren't there, where would we all be!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Ranger Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 According to the trelawney league rules, 2011/12, rule 10A : "original fixtures and any re arranged fixtures made by the fixture secretary for the months of April and may shall be deemed ordered matches and any club failing to comply shall forfeit 3 points to their opponents and be subject to a fine of £10." Seems the rules are set in place for this then, sure the above will be confirmed soon so we can all move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 If the rules are in place, then so be it. But its still my feeling on it because it determines a trophy. As i said, what would have happened if it was a final??? its the same principal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Ranger Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Fair one St Darren, maybe this should be brought up in the next Trelawny meeting for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadcert Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Maybe if you took the time to take a look at the Trelawney lge website you will see that the game is to be re-fixtured. Just keep on jumping to conclusions. No team would throw away the chance of the league title. Also IF Falmouth had canceled their combo fixture and played Penryn throwing in a couple of players as Penryn did to them on Saturday, would it be fair to Culdrose? simple no!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 job done then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mike Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Maybe if you took the time to take a look at the Trelawney lge website you will see that the game is to be re-fixtured. Just keep on jumping to conclusions. No team would throw away the chance of the league title. Also IF Falmouth had canceled their combo fixture and played Penryn throwing in a couple of players as Penryn did to them on Saturday, would it be fair to Culdrose? simple no!! dont always trust what the trelawney website says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erby ruin Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Seems bit weird to suddenly allow a team to replay a fixture when not able to raise a team, does this mean same will happen to chacewater??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Dangerous precedent to set! I think all second team managers will be watching this with interest! I think it's harsh on the teams but we have all had to field weakened teams for one reason or another, this could open the floodgates to strategic cancellations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadcert Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Who said falmouth were unable to raise a side? Don't always trust what you read on this forum!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erby ruin Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Deadcert, if I read rightly, falmouth said they were unable to raise a side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 The plot thickens, I'm intrigued now Deadcert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadcert Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Still waiting for a reply about tonights game to be honest, cant see how we cant raise a side really after the way we played saturday i for 1 am right up for the game Does,nt say that Falmouth cant raise a side does it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erby ruin Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I think i read it under the results section for yesterday, apologies if i misread anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadcert Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 MJP if you are a second team manager you will understand that sometimes your players will be taken for your first team,however on the plus side when your first team havent got a game you too can throw in a couple of "ringers" or are you going to tell me you don,t do that lmto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadcert Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Just read a couple of other threads and found out who you are MJP oops! Congratulations on winning the combo lge as a RESERVE team manager!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Ranger Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 So why was the game cancelled? the posts i have read seem to say that Falmouth had to supply players to the 1st team and were therefore unable to field a side themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadcert Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Yes, due to players having to play for the first team plus injuries suspensions and sickness Falmouth were not able to field two sides on the night, however county rules state that in these circumstances you must field your 1st team which they did. May be in hindsight it may have been better to start the Penryn game with seven players, ko and one player feigns injury and abandon the match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tevez2011 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 ANYONE NOW WHICH RESERVE PLAYERS PLAYED FOR THE COMBO TEAM LAST NITE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Ranger Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Still waiting for a reply about tonights game to be honest, cant see how we cant raise a side really after the way we played saturday i for 1 am right up for the game Does,nt say that Falmouth cant raise a side does it ? Deadcert your not making sense....could they raise a team or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Thank you Deadcert, I as you can imagine, fully empathise with falmouth Athletics predicament, and feel extremely sorry for the second team players as I follow most local teams results each week, and I know and talk to some of the players, and I see that they are doing well, and have looked for the majority of the season that they could win the league and get promoted. My issue is that there are some unscrupulous clubs and officials that may use this in the future, as an oppurtunity to gain an advantage. The rules are there for a purpose, and as much as we all disagree with them sometimes should be adhered to, or else chaos would breakout. By the way the whole of Falmouth Athletic have had a cracking season, and the food and hospitality down there was great when we played there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Ranger Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Thank you Deadcert, I as you can imagine, fully empathise with falmouth Athletics predicament, and feel extremely sorry for the second team players as I follow most local teams results each week, and I know and talk to some of the players, and I see that they are doing well, and have looked for the majority of the season that they could win the league and get promoted. My issue is that there are some unscrupulous clubs and officials that may use this in the future, as an oppurtunity to gain an advantage. The rules are there for a purpose, and as much as we all disagree with them sometimes should be adhered to, or else chaos would breakout. By the way the whole of Falmouth Athletic have had a cracking season, and the food and hospitality down there was great when we played there. Agree, like i said earlier maybe something that can be brought up in a League meeting for next season however it will be abused by some. The rule is there for a reason and it should stand in this case unless there are other reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john smith Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I watched athletic 2nds on sat and the first team last night and from what i seen there wasn't 1 player who played on sat not even on the bench. so not sure why the game got called off. maybe fal lad might know something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystal hood Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 If what has been said on this thread is correct I would like to know why we (Pendeen Rovers) were not allowed to re-fixture our game against Porthlevan Rangers when our first team was struggling for players at the start of the season, The Trelawny league awarded Porthlevan the 3 points because our reserves fufilled there perpose and were called up to play for our 1st team, ultimately meaning we did not have enough players to field both of our sides. Could someone please officially clarify this!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tevez2011 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 DOnt THINK ANYTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED YET CRYSTAL HOOD. I CAN't SEE HOW FAL ATH THINK THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO REARRANGE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAFC02 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 At the end of the day. All of our players and the management at fal athletic have worked very hard to ensure that we finished in a good position this season and it would be very harsh if we were punished due to the first teams lack of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tevez2011 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 BUT NONE OF YOUR 2Nd TEAM PLAYERS PLAYED IN THE FITST TEAM GAME SO WHAT WAS THE REASON YOU CANCELLED IT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Ranger Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Does anyone know when the league will decide on this so we can all move on? From whats been wrote in the last couple of days i would be amazed if it is replayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mike Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 At the end of the day. All of our players and the management at fal athletic have worked very hard to ensure that we finished in a good position this season and it would be very harsh if we were punished due to the first teams lack of players. end of season! lots of games! fixture pile up! saw wnedron put out two teams last night and did very well! quit moaning and get on with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystal hood Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 At the end of the day. All of our players and the management at fal athletic have worked very hard to ensure that we finished in a good position this season and it would be very harsh if we were punished due to the first teams lack of players. We have worked hard at Pendeen to try and keep our reserves in the 4th division, it didn't help us though we still lost the 3 points, I'm sorry but the league have no other option other then to award Penryn the point, you cant have one rule for one club and another rule for different club!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAFC02 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Im not moaning, but it seems everyone else is more interested in other clubs goings on rather than their owns. Has anyone asked the penryn manager and lads on whether they are happy to replay the fixture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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