Referee Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 IT'S AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO SEE PHOTOS OF A MOTHER AND BABY BEING INTIMIDATED IN THE STANDS BY A PLAYER. WELL DONE TO MR HAMPSHIRE FOR SHOWING THAT NOT ALL PLAYERS HAVE LOST THE ART OF RESTRAINING THEMSELVES. THE PHOTOS ALSO PROVE THAT THE MAN (YEAH, WE KNOW IT'S THE JUDGE) BEING VIOLENTLY ATTACKED BY A PLAYER DID NOT DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST HIS ATTACKER. THE ACT OF VIOLENCE WAS CARRIED OUT BY AN INDIVIDUAL WITH NO SELF-CONTROL AND OF A VERY VIOLENT DISPOSITION. NOT ONLY ARE THESE PICTURES GRAPHIC IN NATURE, I HAVE TO ADD THAT I WOULD BE ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF ANY FOOTBALL COMMUNITY THAT CONDONES SUCH BEHAVIOUR SO PLEASE STOP TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR THE PLAYER CONCERNED. IT IS UP TO THE COUNTY FA NOW TO DECIDE THE SEVERITY OF THE PUNISHMENTS TO THE CLUB AND TO THE PLAYER CONCERNED AND NOT FOR US TO SPECULATE WHAT THEY SHOULD GET. IF YOU HAVE ANY REAL EVIDENCE TO OFFER, INSTEAD OF SPECULATION, PLEASE FORWARD IT TO COUNTY OFFICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south devon Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 its made the tabloids just seen the pictures in the sun with comments attached to each picture along with a report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Chown Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I'm sorry to say this has now gone National. My mate at work just past me The Sun ©. On page 15, full page with captions. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/...ending-off.html The photographer must be making a fortune. Shirt sponsors getting free national advertsing. THAT'S a hard-fought game... A furious footballer reacts to being sent off by jumping into the stands and attacking a fan. Raging St Austell skipper Lee Whetter and team-mate Ben Douglas got their marching orders midway through a tough derby at home to Newquay. Instead of heading for an early bath Whetter, 27, barged through the crowd to rain punches on rival fan Mark Charles, 48 - who was giving him stick. A brawl then kicked off involving nearly 20 supporters. Newquay won 4-3 in the South West Peninsula League Division 1 West clash. Whetter has been told he will never play for the Cornwall club again. He said: "I don't know what came over me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBlazey Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Flippin eck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksy007 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Having spent a good deal of time talking this morning, about this incident, with a cornish footballing LEGEND, of yesteryear... He said, "what happened to the good old days where we only referred to handbags as an "incident" when there was blood involved?!" Lets try and move this matter on, and as one of the main sponsors at the club, this incident only highlights our company names, and to be quite frank doesnt put me off the club in the slightest and i know most, if not all of the others agree. Whetts screwed up, he accepts that, in a perfect world he wouldnt have done it and we'd all be talking about the postal strike instead. No one is even remotely condoning what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooper Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Absolutely hilarious, Great entertainment, Im surprised we dont have more fighting let em get on with it :yahoo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest local_football_supporter Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I think now this story is getting so much coverage , it will put more pressure on county FA to throw the book at all invovled , Id say to anyone invovled to be prepared for a serious punishment !!!! including st austell as a club ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrApPy Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Why do you feel that St Austell as a club should get punished for a shocking incident by a minority of people present at the game. Surely the other 14 squad members shouldn't get punished for the incident if they were not involved!!!! The last thing the players want is to drop points as we work hard every week for 3 and recently they have been hard to come by Man Utd didn't drop points for Cantona's antics against Crystal Palace!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_ Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Why do you feel that St Austell as a club should get punished for a shocking incident by a minority of people present at the game. Surely the other 14 squad members shouldn't get punished for the incident if they were not involved!!!! The last thing the players want is to drop points as we work hard every week for 3 and recently they have been hard to come by Man Utd didn't drop points for Cantona's antics against Crystal Palace!?!?! I agree, would be wrong to punish the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 The mirror page 35!! I would hope that the FA will have made some sort of decision by the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Sixes Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Gotta love the depth to which they research the articles in the papers from the Mirror St Austell, who lost 4-3, now face eviction from the South West Peninsula League (Reeeeeeeeally????). The row even dented Newquay's victory. Boss Jim Hilton said last night: "Our supporters are very vocal. It was a cracking win but, sadly, it will all go by the wayside." They may as well have had Elvis and Michael Jackson as witnesses to the incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Referee Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 EACH AND EVERY FOOTBALL CLUB HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TOWARDS THE ACTIONS AND BEHAVIOUR OF ITS MEMBERS, PLAYERS AND SUPPORTERS. ALTHOUGH SOME APPEAR TO DISAGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT IT IS WRITTEN WITHIN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE FA AT ALL LEVELS. I HAVE NOT YET SEEN ANY PHOTOS OF ANYBODY FROM ST AUSTELL ESCORTING THE SENT-OFF PLAYER TO THE CHANGING ROOMS AS IS THEIR DUTY. ALL REPORTS CONCERNING THIS MATCH HAVE SUPPORTED THE REFEREE'S EARLIER DECISION TO SEND TWO PLAYERS FROM THE FIELD OF PLAY. THERE ARE NO EXCUSES TO BE FOUND HERE SO LET'S STOP MAKING THEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudas Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Phil HIscox has already said in the St Austell voice that AFC St Austell do not face eviction from the league and I think that is correct. Whetts accepts his INDIVIDUAL error I think it would be completely wrong to remove them from the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Page 15 of The Sun They make it quite lighthearted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monty Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 18 month ban at least, you cannot just go off into the crowd no matter who it is and what has been said? CCFA need to act swiftly and forcefully. 18 Months!! Some people are saying ban him for life!! Yet Eric Cantona karate kicks someone in the head and is all over the National Media and gets a 9 month ban. CCFA should be put this into perspective before doing anything rash! £116,000 fine and 115 hours community service as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Deano, wouldn't have expected you to be a S*n buyer!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest local_football_supporter Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Why do you feel that St Austell as a club should get punished for a shocking incident by a minority of people present at the game. Surely the other 14 squad members shouldn't get punished for the incident if they were not involved!!!! The last thing the players want is to drop points as we work hard every week for 3 and recently they have been hard to come by Man Utd didn't drop points for Cantona's antics against Crystal Palace!?!?! They will probs get done for failing to control there players !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Deano, wouldn't have expected you to be a S*n buyer!! Was kicking around, so had a look!! I'm not a S*n buyer, for the same reason's as yourself!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truros mr mourinho Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 i forgot to put the bin out,so when the missis came home i said iam sorry,just made to go bed early,now if i then beat my missis around the head,and a bit later felt bad about it and said iam sorry,what would happen divorced ,its to easy just to say sorry,an absolute discrace,but i dont think st austell should have any punishment,as its not there fault they had a ***** playing for them :c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerfan Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Having spent a good deal of time talking this morning, about this incident, with a cornish footballing LEGEND, of yesteryear... He said, "what happened to the good old days where we only referred to handbags as an "incident" when there was blood involved?!" There was blood involved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xembla Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 What a load of handbags. Good photography though. and what on earth was that English flag at the back of the stand about? Newquay should be kicked out of the league for having fans with an English flag pinned up on their stand. Just as a nitpick: wasn't it a British flag, the Union Jack? Maybe I underestimate the depth of Cornish nationalism! Shocking, really shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Chown Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 The Carlsberg South West Peninsula League has issued a statement following the the St Austell-Newquay game on Saturday. The statement reads: "The board of the SW Peninsula League are aware of the alleged misconduct at the above match and the media coverage of the incident. "We deplore in the strongest terms all use of violence and all those that by deed or action seek to bring football in general and the league in particular into disrepute. "However, the authority for dealing with discipline in the first instance is the parent County FA of the club concerned and as such we, like other parties, must await their investigations and charges etc before deciding if further action is warranted. "It is also appropriate for the board to remind all parties to this and any other allegations of misconduct, that correspondence regarding such matters is only acceptable under the agreed rules and regulations, that is submitted in writing through official channels. "No other form of communication can or will be entertained when dealing with such matters." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBlazey Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Now made the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12...attack-fan.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 One winner out of all this is the 'Peparazzi' photographer of the Newquay Voice who must have made a 'bob or two' with the National press and TV! Apparently on Radio Talk Sport this dinner time someone phoned in to say -they have had a 'Cantona' down in Cornwall. They later got to talk to the St.Austell chairman and the story is taking off on the radio station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Sadly, or thankfully, I was on hols and missed the game. I have said before, on here, that Whetters is a disgrace to the game. I witnessed his 'on-field' antics last season and after the Camelford? incident suggested that the CCFA 'threw the book at him and his club'. Perhaps this time they will come to the correct decision. I know that players are sometimes very different personalities off the field (Ron Harris, Tommy Smith, Norman Hunter) but this needs to be dealt with in the strongest terms. Good luck CCFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babos Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 why doesnt everyone let the fa deal with it there is all u lot can do about it so get a life and talk about some positive things in football instead off negatives in football if someone done something good u wont talk about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Start the ball rolling then Babos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnie bates Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 We all complain and moan about referee's and opposing player's and fan's me more then most, but as soon as the whistle goes, we are back in the bar with a drink and a bite to eat. However there are certain occasion's when thing's become serious. This unfortunately is one of them. I am afraid no matter what we all think of Lee and how off the field he his a likeable lad, the FA will not tolerate this. The photo doesn't paint a nice picture, especially with an ex pro's family in amongst it. St Austell have worked tirelessly to get where they are today and this will not do them any favours. CORNISH FOOTBALL THE REAL LOSER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jayrich Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 this bloke has really put cornish football on the map legend!! up the whetters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 i completely agree that bans needed to be dished out. but i cant help but smile when i see the sun with the story and commenting how the judge looks sheepish. He goes to every newquay match abusing players and officials. And how can people say lee whetters was pushing past a mother and baby when the judge is the one with drums,foul language and smoking infront of them. I cant wait to see what punishments get dished out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Unfortuantely with all the local & national press, local news and radio stations covering this story the CFA will feel pressured now into giving out a hefty ban. Talk about having a fair trial, get over it, its happened, shouldn't have happened but alot of people are at fault here: 1) Player- should have just laughed at the comments and gone straight to changing rooms 2) St Austell AFC - their fans behave in an acceptable manner, also if they think or dislike the way someone is behaving have then have them removed from from ground. 3) Manager of St Austell - if he knew 'he wasnt right' why play him ? He should also have ensured his player went to changing rooms and should have stopped Lee from even entering the stand. 4) Referee- again ensuring player had gone to changing rooms 5)Newquay Fc - to ensure there fans behave in an acceptable manner. Lets just let the CFA deal with this and stop throwing this up in Lee's face, he has to live with this everyday and will regret this for the rest of his playing days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jayrich Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 up the whetters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druth1966 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Lets just let the CFA deal with this and stop throwing this up in Lee's face, he has to live with this everyday and will regret this for the rest of his playing days. Those playing days could be well and truely over already ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlestrop Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 This must be highly embarrassing for CCFA Vice Chairman and St.Austell supporter,David Bray:whom,incidentally, I have the highest regard for. One assumes David will not be involved with the subsequent Disciplinary Hearing on which he sits as an Officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 4) Referee- again ensuring player had gone to changing rooms 5)Newquay Fc - to ensure there fans behave in an acceptable manner. How can the referee be at fault? He can't man handle the player to the changing rooms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 The ones who are on here saying the Judge is abusive and swearing are talking nonsence. Passionate about Newquay and gives a bit of banter but nothing over the top. People on here are just jumping on the band wagon. :angry2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_ Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 The ones who are on here saying the Judge is abusive and swearing are talking nonsence. Passionate about Newquay and gives a bit of banter but nothing over the top. People on here are just jumping on the band wagon. True dat, they get wound up by his message board persona. However after reading those Mail readers comments Im going to have to refer to Andrew as goatee man from now on :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejellico Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 six game ban for whetters 80 quid fine for the judge for smoking in the stand sorted. that should put this to bed. HAPPY DAYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 www.cornwallfa.com Governance>Suspensions>Club Names> AFC St Austell It seems Mr Whetter and Mr Douglas have already been suspended. We must applaud the CFA for acting so quickly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slummer Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 What a load of handbags. Good photography though. and what on earth was that English flag at the back of the stand about? Newquay should be kicked out of the league for having fans with an English flag pinned up on their stand. Just as a nitpick: wasn't it a British flag, the Union Jack? Maybe I underestimate the depth of Cornish nationalism! Shocking, really shocking. Xembla I was just being cheeky, if you look it's a St. George Cross with the Union Jack in the upper left quadrant. Still should be banned from grounds in Cornwall unless an up country team plays from across the border and their fans want to stick one up. I hope the photographer that day earned a few quid from this one, fantastic photography to capture this incident and now that it has gone national probably will go international soon it will be very well derserved. I do some semi pro photography myself and to capture an event like this is worth laying out £1000s on those expensive white Canon lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynan's_Dad Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 www.cornwallfa.com Governance>Suspensions>Club Names> AFC St Austell It seems Mr Whetter and Mr Douglas have already been suspended. We must applaud the CFA for acting so quickly! That's nothing to do with the fighting though. Those would both be banned anyway due to being sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 time to put this subject to bed been goin on to long now i was right of the front of the stand whetter barged past me and made stright for the judge certain st austell players where abused i good humour there was no blood and if you took your baby to a football match and they got hit by a football wouldnt you think why did i bring my baby here i still stick by my decision it wasnt a place for a 9 week old baby then again my old man took ke up to watch newquay when i was 1 i have been traumatised ever since lol. :c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 The difference being - if a ball hit a baby it would have been an accident!!! Mrs Hampshire had every right to be in that stand that day, she should have felt totally safe about being there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 www.cornwallfa.com Governance>Suspensions>Club Names> AFC St Austell It seems Mr Whetter and Mr Douglas have already been suspended. We must applaud the CFA for acting so quickly! That's nothing to do with the fighting though. Those would both be banned anyway due to being sent off. Not when both have sine die suspensions!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 What a scandal eh.............but a bit boring now! Wetts is a good player and a decent lad, he shouldn't have done what he did and he'll be punished in the correct manner, end of story. The Judge is not completely innocent here either, having seen the banter on this forum its never been that "friendly" or in "jest". St Austell FC has dominated the headlines so much recently with regard to the sacking of Rowett and now this, its all negative and I feel sorry for the team personally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green & white Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Was listening to TALKSPORT on Thursday & it was on their too....as per norm Hawksby & Jacob light of it all...cornish football is the laughing stock of the country at the min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 The St George's Flag with a Union Flag in the left hand quadrant is not solely an English flag but the flag of Her Majesty's Royal Navy (British). The British Navy in which many of your fellow 'countrymen' serve. So it should be displayed with honour!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south devon Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 :wacko: What a load of handbags. Good photography though. and what on earth was that English flag at the back of the stand about? Newquay should be kicked out of the league for having fans with an English flag pinned up on their stand. Just as a nitpick: wasn't it a British flag, the Union Jack? Maybe I underestimate the depth of Cornish nationalism! Shocking, really shocking. Xembla I was just being cheeky, if you look it's a St. George Cross with the Union Jack in the upper left quadrant. Still should be banned from grounds in Cornwall unless an up country team plays from across the border and their fans want to stick one up. I hope the photographer that day earned a few quid from this one, fantastic photography to capture this incident and now that it has gone national probably will go international soon it will be very well derserved. I do some semi pro photography myself and to capture an event like this is worth laying out £1000s on those expensive white Canon lenses. when i went to school Cornwall was part of England, Great Britain !!! :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slummer Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 What a load of handbags. Good photography though. and what on earth was that English flag at the back of the stand about? Newquay should be kicked out of the league for having fans with an English flag pinned up on their stand. Just as a nitpick: wasn't it a British flag, the Union Jack? Maybe I underestimate the depth of Cornish nationalism! Shocking, really shocking. Xembla I was just being cheeky, if you look it's a St. George Cross with the Union Jack in the upper left quadrant. Still should be banned from grounds in Cornwall unless an up country team plays from across the border and their fans want to stick one up. I hope the photographer that day earned a few quid from this one, fantastic photography to capture this incident and now that it has gone national probably will go international soon it will be very well derserved. I do some semi pro photography myself and to capture an event like this is worth laying out £1000s on those expensive white Canon lenses. when i went to school Cornwall was part of England, Great Britain !!! Yeah south Devon I was just fishing for I bite. Thank you for snapping. Tibet is a part of China and Barcelona is a Spanish city :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 the judge is passionate about newquay. maybe a bit to passionate. and the banter is fine when there winning. when they start losing he starts abusing officials and swearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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