Heaney and Truro City

[somersetspur]

Well Mr Deacon,being an ex Truro City man,Im quite disappointed with those comments.

Who,s trod on your toes from the club then.?

As for Mr Massey,s comments,Im sure he would love to be aboard,the great ship Heaney that keep,s

sailing to pastures new.

So I take both your mutterings with a pinch of salt.

The Club continues to progress,FACT.A more professional set up was required.FACT.That is taking place,

if it is proved right or wrong only time will tell.

I have got no doubt,that one day this will come to an end,and Kevin will give it up,but why not,some one

else with a bit of money coming in and continuing the success,just like other football clubs,with great

potential,no one ever mentions that possibility,but that won't happen just yet.

Another great season is ahead,despite you lot on here.

[Guest Man on the Post]

Steve had the chance to show us all how to run a football club at Falmouth, but was unable to put his words into practice. :D

[somersetspur]

Mr Massey had a successful time when he was at Truro,but he was at the club when it was booming,and he

spent a few pennies to win his trophies.

I have'nt followed Mr Massey's career to much after his departure from City.

Can anyone fill me in ,on his success.?

[Dave Deacon]

I’m not quite sure why there should be any disappointment with any of my comments! Unlike some Truro City contributors who write on this Forum, I can see things from both sides. I quite rightly gave them some credit when suggesting they often write comments which are fair enough, however the slightest hint of doubt, criticism or concern about the club, or its members, and they become quite defensive when really there isn’t any need to as we’re only speaking our own thoughts – not one of us knows exactly what is going on behind the scenes of the county’s currently most successful football club.

As for your suggestion Somersetspur that someone has stepped on my toes, I can assure you that I have absolutely no axe to grind, I still have as good a relationship with the club than throughout the ten seasons I was involved as a player, and the another number of years when I covered them for BBC Radio Cornwall. I have them to thank for lots of good memories. Before and after the arrival of Kevin and his millions.

All the way along this miraculous uprising of a club that was flat on its face well before Kevin arrived, I have celebrated its success as much as anyone, and even though that success is purely down to having the financial resources to persuade the right personnel to join the club, I am one to suggest we should bathe in the glory while it lasts. But, I am also realistic to know and say out loud that at some stage the rollercoaster will come to a grinding halt. When that happens however, I won’t be one of those anti-Truro cynics who will shout out “there, told you so!” Instead, I am just grateful that I was around and close enough involved to enjoy it all.

You of course can take these mutterings with a pinch of salt, similarly there will be times when I read yours and think the same. But at least allow me and others the chance to comment. The likes of The Judge you can shoot down in flames because he is so blatantly bias against Truro – I am different somersetspur.

Although I don’t always praise the club every second of the day, it doesn’t mean that I am any less concerned about them than you. Indeed when I am told by Chris Webb (a friend and a ex-team mate), who I played football with just a few days ago and since his departure, that why should he walk away from a club that he has been so involved with over the last few years – I have to believe him more than the media-talk coming out of some now involved mouths!

As for Steve’s comments, keep reading his page on the CORNISH SOCCER website and I’m sure he’ll tell you himself before long!

:wacko:

[somersetspur]

A very much "sit on the fence " reply.

I will praise City when they are doing well,but will speak my mind when it is not.

I to was involved with Truro City for many years,and will back them 100% against the Judge + rest.

Any problem with that.?

What about Steve Massey's Managers record.?

[Guest Man on the Post]

Dave, the point about criticism in you posting always makes me laugh. Those who say that Truro supporters react badly to criticism, react the same when they themselves are criticised. Simply, none of use likes criticism. :D

[Dave Deacon]

A very much "sit on the fence " reply.

Well sorry, but I thought I replied to your comments!

What about Steve Massey's Managers record.?

If you're that interested look back at the clubs he was involved with. Not quite sure of the relevance though!

none of use likes criticism

I agree but you have to admit that some of the Truro City contributors are so blinkered when it comes to what happens at Truro that its not true!

Surely everything that has happened over the last four to five years can't all have been so good that no criticism is allowed to be tolerated!

[Steve Massey]

Guys many thanks for your feed back.

I prefer to continue the discussion and my thoughts on Truro City through my MASSEY'S MUTTERINGS Page hopefully on Sunday Evening.

But what with another Saturday without Football, next best thing is writing about it!!

I was extremely flattered and honoured to be asked to write for Cornish Soccer. I was also very much aware that my comments and written thoughts would be open to criticism, that comes with the territory and are fully aware that we all have differing views and opinions.

I get slightly disappointed though when it becomes personal.

I do not see the point being made by someone in forcing the question about my "Managerial Record"

If you are judged on Trophies you win and places your team finishes in, or if its on how much respect the players and officials of the clubs thought of you as a manager, Then I think I can hold my head up high and claim to have been a success on both fronts.

My article was written to be read constructively, I'm a supporter and also the FIRST person back in the early 90's that said this could all happen. I VERY MUCH WANT THIS TO CONTINUE, I'm not one of the Truro Knockers!

Take a little time to read again please, there is NO WHERE in that article that I'm knocking Truro. I say IN MY OPINION, Just mine, no one Else's, That I have NO of confidence in the new marketing set up to bring the required results that are spoken about.

I will go on to say in my next article that,

The present set up at the club I.E. Only one Director, Absolutely no football knowledge in or around the board room or Commercial scenes, Plus ......Alienation of both 2nd and 3rd teams and business in Cornwall. IS NOT A GREAT STARTING PLACE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE SUCCESS of last four years.

I sincerley hope this will not be the case, I speak like a lone voice at the moment, and a few personal knives will not change my views,

Unfortunately there are to many wearing woolly hats covering your eyes and reading what you want to read!!

We are in a magnificent position, Why waste this opportunity? This now should be built on. I have said before in print, Lets not look back in years to come and remember this as our pinnacle. Even if its a year or two in the premiership then push on.

But believe me all the signs are of storm clouds gathering and we have not got the roof on yet!

The club needs more people on board quickly, but who? Mr Heaney has alienated most and while I know in his heart he genuinely wants the club to go on, some of the decision making this week has been questionable.

While the introduction of the new commercial arm and enthusiasm coming from them is to be commended in practice its going to be unworkable. Far to many conflicts of interest and anyway not sure just in who's interest its going to benefit?

Finally, Truro City does not belong to Kevin Heaney, He is only the custodian at the moment. Nor does it belong to Somerset Spur, Steve Massey or Chris Webb. It belongs to all of the people of Truro, all of its supporters county, Country and World wide.

It is our club, never has been and never will be one persons club.

Chairman, players, Managers and kind benefactors will come and go,

BUT The club will all ways be there and so will the fans.

So I ask, and you might still disagree with me, and that's OK we will still both be cheering the team on, But try lifting the bottom of your woolly hats and have another look out there!

Mass

P.s

I will also on Sunday Tell you about the text still on my phone from a certain Chairman asking me to come on the Board of a very successful Cornish club. Now who could that be??

[somersetspur]

There you go then Steve,jump aboard.

Ive got no wooly hat on.

You say in some sentences,we must go forward and progress,then say the storm clouds are gathering,and

no roof is on.

How long has the roof been off.?

As long as I can remember have'nt we gained a record number of promotions,won the F.A.Vase,and are

preparing for the new season with some quality signings,and got a professional company going to run

the commercial side of things,plus the new supporters club getting into gear.

Now if the roof is off and Im wearing a woolie hat,Im struggling to see Storm clouds.

Maybe its the Somerset Scrumpy.? :drink:

[Steve Massey]

Somerset Spur,

Love it, Love your enthusiasm! Didn't understand a word you were talking about though, but what the heck!

You must introduce yourself next time please, or will I recognise you in your Woolly hat?!

My Wife and Sister In Law are both Somerset Girls, Taunton Maternity many years ago!

Unfortunately your right the roof as never been on, never needed to with all this Sunny weather about for last few years! But ALL droughts end at some time, Lets hope we are ready.

Hope you are having a lovely weekend

Kind Regards

Mass

[somersetspur]

Im just a simple guy born and bred in Truro,many moons ago.

I just try and look at things in a positive way.

The way I see it is,the 1st team is being strengthened with quality,which it needed to be.

A Professional Company is going to take over the commercial side of things,which has been criticised in the

past,so that was needed,now weather it works,who knows.?Lets wait and see.

The Supporters Club is up and running with events being planned as we speak.Great news.

So all I say is ,lets grab the positives,and look forward and enjoy the ride.

Unless you know different,Steve.

Because what goes on with the powers to be,and all politics behind the scenes can be dealt with by the

people with the power.

Providing Truro put out a side,and entertain us with their successful drive for success,that will do for me.

Lets wish the boys,all the luck in the world for the new season.

[Graham Martin]

I don't understand the 'doom & gloom' merchants either...!!

We are about to embark on a season in the Southern Premier League - exciting new signings have been made, the Clubhouse has been re-opened, a new Commercial Management Section set up. The Supporters Club re-energized with over 100 members already signed up before its official launch.

What on earth is wrong with all that..!

I don't believe I or many others have 'rose tinted glasses' we know it could all go wrong - but for now we continue to enjoy the ride - looking forward next season to League visits to Oxford, Cambridge, Swindon etc...

One comment above is true - TCFC belongs to the people of Truro - my Father & GrandFather were involved with the Club - I am now - and my son will continue to be in the future. Long may it continue.

The British generally seem to like to 'knock' anything that is successful and the Cornish even more so.

The 'doom & gloom' merchants have been having having a go at TCFC for the last 4 to 5 years, but, guess what..? We are still here - and while the wonderful rollercoaster ride continues I will keep on enjoying it..!!

[somersetspur]

At last a positive reply.

Thanks Big G,I was starting to dis-beleive my positivity.

:thumbsup:

[MOUNTAINEER]

I am sure I could be thought of as one of those looking at things through rose tinted glasses, far from it, the writing is on the wall plain as daylight, Truro City need almost £500,000 to operate for one season, the average gate is 490, income from the supporters approx 12.5%, ONE HELL OF A SHORTFALL to rest on the shoulders of one man, Mr Heaney, personally I can never see Truro City FC being self supporting, nor do the fellow supporters I speak to. I would like to think that the new commercial venture could take off but there isn't a cat in hell's chance of it raising the shortfall in revenue, hopefully involving others is the first chink of light at the end of the tunnel leading to a future board of directors flashing the cash on a large scale, now that is be wishful thinking ............................. hey like others I am enjoying the ride.

The £500,000 was mentioned on the BBC by the director being interviewed from our new commercial partners, he also mentioned that promotion in 2009/2010 would result in more money being needed to compete in 2010/2011 and so on the higher the club goes.

Earlier this year Beaconsfield SYCOB were looking for a commercial guru to raise cash, no wage but 25% commission of what was achieved, I wonder what arrangement is in place at Treyew Road.

The off field antics in all grades of football are baffling to say the least, Truro City are nearing a full time professional set up, things are happening about the club that are commonplace in the higher leagues but foreign to the nature people at the lower end on the spectrum have grown accustomed to, it is a different world where loyalty is rarely rewarded, unfortunately Truro City are nearing that world but that's professional football's bad side. We can only support the team on the field and leave the politics to those who crave the fame or failure.

I cannot see anywhere where Dave Deacon has been anti Truro City, he has done what he does best and that was to report what was being said, a bit different from some other contributors who only post their own anti Truro prejudices.

In the meantime we can bury our heads in the sand and should the "City of Truro" run out of steam and go into reverse, be there to pick up the pieces.

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City of Truro - Great steam engine.

[Guest Man on the Post]

Excellent posting BigG. :clapper:

[somersetspur]

Mountaineer,I dont know if you are having a dig at me,but where have I said that Mr Deacon is Anti Truro.

All I commented on is the sit on the fence reply and his negative vibes.

I know this wont go on forever,but i look on the positives,and look to progress.

How much longer we go on ,who knows.

So Im going to continue to support Truro on the field and on the forums.

:thumbsup:

[MOUNTAINEER]

somersetspur, I was NOT having a go at you, I believe that you, Dave and myself have a common ground, enjoy the good times, take nothing for granted and if the worse happens be thankful for the memories.

We will I am sure meet up again on our travels in a couple of months, now I must go and have a field day, if you think digging in the middle of a field during the summer is fun, try it. phew.

All the best :clapper:

[D K]

Giving a legal team the commerical element to deal with is an interseting step.

They will not be doing it for nothing and so why do Truro think its a good idea to give a percentage of money raised away, when there is already such a shortfall?

Getting corporate sponsorship for a club whose director has acted appaulingly towards local businesses is the reason they have had to seek outside help. The internal commerical team have been flogging a dead horse ever since the Cornish Homes issues. There will of course be some loyal sponsors but attracting new ones will be difficult.

Follet Stock are legal experts, this is a new business and a new field for them.

If Truro were serious about finding money, they would have gone to a specialist firm that could raise these monies from National businesses with one hand behind their backs.

If you are going to pay someone to collect sponsorship, at least get someone with a track record!

[cornishatheart]

Truro are in a better financal position than Bournemouth were a week or two ago...

[Jasa]

Alienation of both 2nd and 3rd teams and business in Cornwall. IS NOT A GREAT STARTING PLACE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE SUCCESS of last four years.

Brilliant post, you always give a very good response and people respect your opinions. I just disagree with the alienation of 2nd and third teams. I've been at Truro for 6 years now, started in the thirds, and there have been 6 reserves in the first team squad and the link between the 2nds and thirds is second to none. I've played for thirds twice, and been with the firsts 10 times.

[Guest Luffy]

It seems that everyone likes to knock Truro City for trying to push up the ladder. I have to commend them for trying, unfortunately it is a very expensive exercise in today's world to be able to succeed in football, and whilst Mr Heaney had a successful company then he would be able to meet any shortfall that the club found themselves in whilst chasing the holy grail which is professional league football.

The problem that the club is facing is that Mr Heaney is feeling the pinch during this crunch and is finding it difficult to sustain the money required for Truro to continue to climb, however, this may change if / when the housing market once again picks up in the meantime he is trying to alleviate the problem by bringing onboard a successful firm who over the years have built themselves up from a small provisional firm to one that has a good rep throughout the country. True they have little knowledge of football itself but to be able to bring money into a club you have to appeal on a corporate level, and they may just be able to do this.

The real problem that the club faces is where they are actually from, although many of us play football or in turn are associated with a club, football is still seen to be the poor relation to Rugby within the county, and although our premier rugby clubs have been fairly successful in climbing the ladder they too are feeling the crunch due to lack of cash and they attract bigger crowds than City do, and that is where the crux of the problem lies. Support. It is great to hear that the supporters of the club are behind Truro all the way and they are trying their utmost to ensure that the dream of climbing the football ladder continues not only for themselves but also for the club and I hope that they are successful, however, those going through the turnstiles will not be able to ensure the funding that the club requires, as their are just not enough supporters throughout the county.

Plymouth struggle because they struggle to fill their stadium and they play at the second tier of professional football and to be honest they have a far wider catchment area with a greater population of people to attract, on the other hand Truro's catchment area is far smaller especially with a county that does not have the largest population within it's borders.

I hope that the supporters of the club have an enjoyable season next year and that the club does progress, but I have a feeling that they probably have gone as far as they can at the moment and maybe 2 - 3 years at this level just to consolidate and sort out the structure of the club so that it can be ready for another push either due to Mr Heaney being able to reinvest as his business gets back on the road or the club are able to self finance the next step.

All the best for the forth coming season.

:drink:

[100%cornish]

I am born and bred in newquay have watched them for years in the old south western league when they had such a good team but now they are in this new league i go to watch truro play and they are a very good side and very entertaining and i wil continue to watch them this season the truro knockers are just all jealous of there success and would love to swap places and mr kevin heaney has done a marvellous job but with the wages the players are in they could struggle in years to come also they should of kept young eddy hes goin to be some player and tom smith gone lets see how they do this year and see if yetton can continue his amazing goal scoring .

[Guest john]

Has liam Eddy left Truro? Just reading the thread above!

[Guest plainmoor]

A new comercial arm eh? so what happened to the old one?

Forgive me if I'm wrong but didn't Mr. Heaney poach a bloke from reading FC (kevin) a couple of years ago? he was at the time Readings comerial manager and was sucessful in his post and did a great job for Truro when he was there, what ever happened to him? was he kicked into touch like the rest of the expendable people/ companies?

[Guest The Judge aka RED OR DEAD]

WHO ON EARTH WROTE THIS ?: -

I don't believe I or many others have 'rose tinted glasses' we know it could all go wrong - but for now we continue to enjoy the ride - looking forward next season to League visits to Oxford, Cambridge, Swindon etc...

Have another look at the Pyramid and perhaps you may wish to re-set your Sat-Nav !

[Guest bigdawg1]

Have another look at the Pyramid and perhaps you may wish to re-set your Sat-Nav !

[isaac rosenberg]

I have thoroughkly enjoyed watching Truro City. But Steve Massey knows a hawk from a handsaw !

So now, with Fraser the ndertaker, we must all chorus: "Doomed ! Doomed ! Aye, you're Doomed !" :drink: