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  1. Paying Players

    The laws of the realm regarding paying taxes on earnings are the same throughout the country, Cornwall is not exempt !!!! No one should deride clubs who can afford to, for paying players , providing of course it's done above board and not putting the existence of a club in jeopardy.
  2. Paying Players

    Don't think the £80 a game a Tavistock player says he was getting would qualify for the above remark.
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    Accountants will only react to the information they are given, false information means false accounts. Accountants will also ask club treasurers to sign a document stating that the information given is a true reflection of the years financial affairs, which in effect will remove them from any acts of colusion. They stand to lose their livelyhood if found guilty of misrepresentation for financial gain.
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    A club is administered by the committees involved, and it would be the committee members who in the first place would be responsible for explaining the finances of the club, ie how the balance sheet figures were arrived at. My question is, do committee members realise the resposibilities they have, and the potential consequences if H.M.R.C. can prove them guilty of making illicit payments that are unrecorded on the balance sheets. We would hazard a guess that it could make quite a dent in your finances.
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    No not kidding, exactly the point that was being made, just reminding clubs and their committee members, the risk they take if payments are not made above board, and offering those who accuse clubs of paying exhorbitant match fees the way to find out if they do and if so how much !!
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    The real danger that committees seem to accept as the norm because Inland revenue have as yet failed to investigate club finances, is that if they did and found a club guilty of illegal ( in the eyes of the law ) payments, committee members could be found guilty of being accessories to an illegal act, and would have to accept the likely consequences. Ask any accountant or sub-contractor working on a site what responsibilities they have to inform H.M.R.C. of payment transactions, it's frighting. Regarding tight lipped club treasurers, accounts have to be published annually, and should be made available for public scrutiny. If anyone has any doubts about their authenticity, figures can be challenged at club A.G.M.s when a seasons balance sheet should be made available to all attendees. The fact that payments may have been paid for the last 60 years, makes it neither legal or immune to retropective justice in the eyes of the law. Our views may seem a bit O.T.T. but we only need one situation where a club is found to be acting wrongly in regard to payments made to players, and a whole can of worms will be opened for all concerned. One point that must be stated, is that clubs who pay players and include those payments in the correct format in their accounts, have nothing to worry about.
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    There's your answer Keith B. It's always intrigued us to know why the inland revenue aren't interested in those transactions, as taxpayers not declaring an income is illegal, as are undeclared payments by employers, putting both club and player at risk of prosecution. The employers would in effect be the committee members of the offending club, and would be responsible for any fines imposed should the club default.
  8. We have heard that the Newquay v Sticker premiership match due to be played on 13/ 01 /18 is postponed due to the cancellation of Newquays Senior Cup game against Millbrook last Saturday. The rearranged cup match will take precedence this coming weekend.
  9. Lots of ifs and bannana skins before that can happen.
  10. Sticker v Launceston a definite on game
  11. Then it is down to the referees to follow that directive to the letter, and not administer their own interpretation of a particular rule. The use of foul language is tolerated by some refs and not by others, as far as we are aware the law states that foul language is punishable and a cardable offence. Maybe a start in the right direction would be for referees who are reluctant to issue a red card, could use the sin bin that this thread is debating.
  12. Thank you B-D, survey completed. The easy option is to take a negative view, do nothing about the attitude of some players, ( and in some cases supporters, pity they can't be sin binned also ) and then complain about the state of our national game. At least if your view is a negative one, register it on the survey, and show the F.A. that there are people who care about the game they administer. Not all new ideas will meet with wholesale acceptance, but IF referees invoke the rules at their disposal, we might see an improvement in our game. Maybe the F.A. should circulate a directive to refs, clearly defining THEIR definition of how THEIR rules should be administered.
  13. Paying Players

    If Stickers twitter a/c is correct, it looks as if they had the 2nd highest ( after Plymouth Parkway v Tavistock ) crowd in the country at step 6 on Boxing Day v St Austell. Well done Parkway, Sticker, and Godolphin, all of whom were in the top ten, which included teams from Wiltshire, Durham, Leicestershire, West Yorkshire, and Tyneside. Obviously the countrywide weather conditions affected that result, but lets blow our trumpet for those who played and made the news, Parkways crowd figures in particular would stand them in good stead in any step 6 attendance figures.
  14. Check the postponement thread on the S.W.P.L. forum before you do anything.
  15. Season of goodwill has been exterminated already, that didn't take long then !!
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