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ECPL Fixtures Saturday 21st February

 

Fred Binks Premier Division Cup First Round

 

Edgcumbe 3 Saltash United 1

 

Premier Division

 

Fowey United 4 Liskeard Athletic 1
Launceston v Polperro (Postponed)
Plymstock United 4 Elburton Villa 1
Torpoint Athletic 6 St Dominick 1

 

Division One

 

Lanreath 0 Bude Town 3
Nanpean Rovers 1 Pensilva 2
Probus 0 St Stephens Borough 2
Roche v Millbrook (Postponed)
St Austell v Camelford (Postponed)
St Blazey 2 Holsworthy 1

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Torpoint 6 v 1 St dom

A even first half which ended 1 1 .. 2nd half conceded 3 goals in a space of 15 mins which is never ideal against top of the league then they added another 2 to complete the scoring . Torpoint deserved to win ..

Would just like to say on a personal note that today was my last game for St Dom and I wish the club all the best for rest of the season I will miss the people especially Gary the manager and ken the secretary who is a true clubman and jock the assistant . Fingers crossed they find the points to stay up .

Regards jay

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I understand what you mean Brian with an all Plymouth game in an 'East Cornwall League'... Its constitution allow for Devon clubs so should there be a name change for the league???

It goes on elsewhere as at our highest level of football we still had Swansea v Cardiff in the 'English Premier League' in the past!!!

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Any side who are based in the st Austell area. As Fowey are finding out this season. The travelling is very long in the Premier league.

As I was involved with Probus , when they played in the premier league, travel was quiet an obstacle .

It does make a difference when trying to attract players. Personally I think the Ecpl have let to many devon sides into their league.

Then again the Duchy league do the same.  Would regionalising the league make a difference ?

The Sw pl  do it and it seems to work well. Like to hear a comment from the Ecpl on this. 

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As manutdfcok mentioned I think it would be a great idea to make a east / central / west / leagues incorporating the combination league to change things for the better ,,, less travelling more support , different places and different faces ,, ?????

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The travel into Devon isn't really that bad it is? Plymstock, Elburton etc. Barely outside Plymouth, not much different to travelling to Torpoint or Saltash, and the Devon teams make the Prem stronger, as it should be. It come's with the territory, especially because of where we live in a rural county, and end of the day it's only a handful of away trips in a season that are a fair distance. If you're ambitious as a team and wanted to progress to South Western level then you'd have to travel even more. If you have the commitment and desire from a squad, then travelling isn't a problem, if it is, then taking promotion into the ECPL from duchy football shouldn't be done. Teams such as Mevagissey who are right on the east/west cornish divide could look at perhaps joining the combo.

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Would there be an option for a club in Mid-Cornwall e.g. Probus to transfer to the Combination League from the ECPL? I know the Combo already have a big league, so I would doubt whether they would allow this.

 

We (Probus) opted to drop down to ECPL Division One due to the travelling involved in the Premier division because for virtually every away trip it was taking an hour (or an hour and a half to Morwenstow) to get to an away game. Our 'local' games were Lanreath and Wadebridge, whereas in the division we are in now we have 5 local derbies at St. Blazey, St. Austell, Mevagissey, Roche and Nanpean.

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Yeah I imagine unless a team or two folded in the combo you'd have to drop into trelawney. Was it purely the travel that made you drop down and if you had the chance would you go back up? I only ask because the reason most teams compete is to progress and that means taking promotion, but if your club is happy to just tick a long in Div 1 than that's fair enough. For me personally I think an hour is acceptable, if eventually teams like St Austell & St Blazey go up to the prem then teams dropping down means the travel for a team like probus is likely to pick up again, and it's a possibility Morwenstow will be in Div 1 next season!

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Probus would have to apply to the Combo League by the deadline date which I don't know what it is. As it would be a sideways move, I'm not sure if they would be accepted in the same way as Carharrack who would (assuming they finish in the top 2/3) be promoted automatically as part of the pyramid system.

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Yeah I imagine unless a team or two folded in the combo you'd have to drop into trelawney. Was it purely the travel that made you drop down and if you had the chance would you go back up? I only ask because the reason most teams compete is to progress and that means taking promotion, but if your club is happy to just tick a long in Div 1 than that's fair enough. For me personally I think an hour is acceptable, if eventually teams like St Austell & St Blazey go up to the prem then teams dropping down means the travel for a team like probus is likely to pick up again, and it's a possibily Morwenstow will be in Div 1 next season!

 

We've got a second team in Trelawney 5, but it would take at least 7 seasons to get anywhere near the Combo even if they won promotion every season, which is obviosuly highly unlikely given the quality of the divisions.

 

If the club finished in the top 2 of division 1 (which is unlikely) then I guess the committee (or the small group of about 5 of us that make up the committee!) would have a decision to make, or the ECPL would possibly say that we had to go up or not so it might not even be in our hands.

For me personally travelling isn't a major problem because I regularly do 1500 miles a week with work, but as a club we try and bring through players each season from our under 16 team and obviosuly they can't drive, which means that 3 of us have to drive almost every away game. We are a club that in the short term, due to facilities, are unlikley to be able to apply for the Peninsula League. We regulalry have 3/4 games on our pitch at a weekend and even though we have a groundsman who gives up his own time and does a great job, the pitch and facilities aren't up to standard for us to progress beyond the ECPL at present despite us trying to find land near the village to get our own ground.

 

I enjoy the local derbies because you generally get more spectators, because for some games against more Plymouth based teams you get the away bench and no additional supporters. Unfortunately the old ECPL days (with only 1 division) with derbies against Sticker and Foxhole when they brought 30+ supporters are long gone.  

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Probus would have to apply to the Combo League by the deadline date which I don't know what it is. As it would be a sideways move, I'm not sure if they would be accepted in the same way as Carharrack who would (assuming they finish in the top 2/3) be promoted automatically as part of the pyramid system.

 

I think the problem with us applying for a sideways move Willow Tree would be that there would always be someone who wanted to be promoted from the Trelawney Premier League, which is fair enough.

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An interesting debate, and constructive as well.  There are pro and cons for going regional, I appreciate that, but you also have to consider the cost of travelling for Clubs to away games.  Plymouth Clubs being in the ECPL has always been a topic of debate over a number of seasons, sometimes heated at meetings.  The opportunity to play against SWPL reserve teams is a major attraction, and the facilities at the Clubs in the ECPL are superb.

 

To take this to the next level, the ECPL Committee need to have meeting to discuss this subject in more detail and confirm if ECPL becoming regionalised can work.  It may not, but I think the subject needs to be discussed 

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Just to enlighten you all.  If my memory serves me well when this point was raised at either an AGM or league meeting I think only THREE teams out of 32 wanted the league to be regionalised.  So speaks for itself.  Keep it as it is, but by all means change the name of the league to something like East Cornwall and West Devon league or the Tamarside league.

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