L.Ricks9 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'm sending out a public apology to Penryn athletic football, players and especially there Linesman Tom Blewett on behalf of the spectator who posted an inappropriate picture on social media yesterday about Tom. The lad has been told to remove this and make and apology to St Dennis football club and Tom himself which he will be doing. A frustrating decision went against us yesterday in what was a huge game. But that's football. Tom doesn't or didn't deserve the humiliation he recieved, and due to that, we all at St Dennis send our biggest apologies on the lads behalf. Action will be taken towards the guy from the club. Again our deepest apologies to Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor61 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'm sending out a public apology to Penryn athletic football, players and especially there Linesman Tom Blewett on behalf of the spectator who posted an inappropriate picture on social media yesterday about Tom. The lad has been told to remove this and make and apology to St Dennis football and Tom himself which he will be doing. A frustrating decision went against us yesterday in what was a huge game. But that's football. Tom doesn't or didn't deserve the humiliation he recieved, and due to that, we all at St Dennis send our biggest apologies on the lads behalf. Action will be taken towards the guy from the club. Again our deepest apologies to Tom. Well said Lee! As you said "Thats football" it happens to all teams! So move on to the next game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Will you be removing your photo too? That photo proves nothing really. Only photo/video in line would prove anything (not that it would change the decision)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Ricks9 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 My photo was just my opinion, it's how it looked to me from that angle. No malice aimed from it. I no it won't change the result just like to hear people's views, but yes if people find it offensive I will remove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I don't find it offensive, just think that from that angle and without seeing when the ball was played that it proves anything! Just don't think this sort of thing helps anyone. People brand cheating by club assistants around a lot, whereas in my experience most of the assistants at SWPL West level are honest guys who make honest mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Ricks9 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 That's fair enough mate, i no everyone makes mistakes, he's only human just frustrating that in a game as big as that, 2 points could be costly at the end of the season. I no Toms not a cheat, when we played Penryn down there he was very honest. Hopefully we can just put it down to a huge misjudgement on the spectators behalf and it can be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santini11 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Look at the picture and look where the linesman was standing......he is clearly in no position to make a decision from there! It's nothin to do with what angle it was in.....he was well behind play and put is flag up as soon as celebrations started! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry but am I missing something here? Are we saying that the photo was inappropriate or were there also comments alongside it that were rude/libellous/abusive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Ricks9 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 What were the comments Dave ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighairydave Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 But he could have been standing where the back line was when the ball was played ready to put the flag up once the offside player touched the ball so his position when the ball is headed in is almost irrelevant. It is where he was standing when the ball was played to the player that is important! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 What were the comments Dave ? Not sure which "Dave" you're asking! But that's my question - were there comments too? Because i can't see anything wrong with tweeting a photo which isn't really conclusive whether the Lino was right or wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Ricks9 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Big hairy Dave, after asking the ref yesterday what he gave the offside for, his response was that the linesman had flagged for the St Dennis player in the back of the photo from when the ball left the head of the saints player in the centre of the pic, but clearly the photos shows that the keeper has already saved the header, and the player who was supposedly offside is still onside, he's running in, so when that ball made contact with Jacob Rowes head, Ryan Hayhurst would have been even further behind. Clearly onside ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Ricks9 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 What were the comments Dave ? Not sure which "Dave" you're asking! But that's my question - were there comments too? Because i can't see anything wrong with tweeting a photo which isn't really conclusive whether the Lino was right or wrong! Me either. It's done now so will just move onto Tuesday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegrose Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Who was the abusive supporter that was takin the pictures lee?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegrose Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry but am I missing something here? Are we saying that the photo was inappropriate or were there also comments alongside it that were rude/libellous/abusive?think it was a piss take took to far bordering nasty comments dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry but am I missing something here? Are we saying that the photo was inappropriate or were there also comments alongside it that were rude/libellous/abusive?think it was a piss take took to far bordering nasty comments dave Whatever the damage has probably already been done! I daresay comments on facebook have already been copied and sent to CCFA. When will people learn not to post such remarks on any social media outlets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Ricks9 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 But the comments from that spectator Dave, he's not involved in the club ! So how will that effect us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 But the comments from that spectator Dave, he's not involved in the club ! So how will that effect us ? Best you get onto the CCFA first thing in the morning and explain the situation to them. Take advice and act accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Ricks9 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Thanks Dave will pass that on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegrose Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry but am I missing something here? Are we saying that the photo was inappropriate or were there also comments alongside it that were rude/libellous/abusive?think it was a piss take took to far bordering nasty comments dave Whatever the damage has probably already been done! I daresay comments on facebook have already been copied and sent to CCFA. When will people learn not to post such remarks on any social media outlets? Not allowed to have an opinion anymore whether it's right or wrong peoples freedom to post wot they want is slowly being taken away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry but am I missing something here? Are we saying that the photo was inappropriate or were there also comments alongside it that were rude/libellous/abusive?think it was a piss take took to far bordering nasty comments daveWhatever the damage has probably already been done! I daresay comments on facebook have already been copied and sent to CCFA. When will people learn not to post such remarks on any social media outlets?Not allowed to have an opinion anymore whether it's right or wrong peoples freedom to post wot they want is slowly being taken away Comments described to me as "vile" - that sounds more than just an opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegrose Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry but am I missing something here? Are we saying that the photo was inappropriate or were there also comments alongside it that were rude/libellous/abusive?think it was a piss take took to far bordering nasty comments daveWhatever the damage has probably already been done! I daresay comments on facebook have already been copied and sent to CCFA. When will people learn not to post such remarks on any social media outlets?Not allowed to have an opinion anymore whether it's right or wrong peoples freedom to post wot they want is slowly being taken away Comments described to me as "vile" - that sounds more than just an opinion! I wasn't there dave so don't no who sed wot to whoever just heard bout it yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry but am I missing something here? Are we saying that the photo was inappropriate or were there also comments alongside it that were rude/libellous/abusive?think it was a piss take took to far bordering nasty comments daveWhatever the damage has probably already been done! I daresay comments on facebook have already been copied and sent to CCFA. When will people learn not to post such remarks on any social media outlets?Not allowed to have an opinion anymore whether it's right or wrong peoples freedom to post wot they want is slowly being taken away Comments described to me as "vile" - that sounds more than just an opinion!I wasn't there dave so don't no who sed wot to whoever just heard bout it yesterday It's not comments said at the match but put on Facebook! Far more damaging to the club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Referee Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Not seen the pics or the comments....... Sounds like St Dennis have disowned the individual as he does NOT officially reflect the thoughts of The Club. Well done to St Dennis for acting so quickly. Get rid of people who cyber bully and report them to CCFA as they have jurisdiction to impose all sorts of sanctions upon the perpetrator. Cyber Bullying is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Let me clear this up for you all. Your club is responsible for the behaviour of all spectators, players and any-one who enters your facility before, during, and after the match. That includes the ground, clubhouse and anywhere associated with your club. The referee has authority from the moment he/she enters the confines of your property, from the front gate until they leave. That includes the clubhouse, ground, car park, and anywhere else that constitutes your property. An unruly, foul mouthed, blasphemous spectator can be asked to leave the premises if asked to do so by the officials. You would be expected to escort that person from the ground, if they will not leave then you would be expected to call the police to have them removed. (and that has happened) Freedom of speech has never existed to the point where you can say, or put into print anything that is libellous, threatening or defamatory. Also if it is an un-truth. Whether the off- side was correct or not - is not up for debate .... it was given, the result will stand. What is debateable is whether the officials should have to have an escort off of the field, no, they should not. Should they be subject to abuse leaving the field, no, they should not. Should they be subject to abuse on a forum or a social media site, no they should not. I would have thought that by now people would realise that being a keyboard warrior does not protect you from the full force of the CCFA, where it will be going, or the police. That is where this probably will be going.....and so it should. Finally....NO, it is not "that's football" and is no different to the Chelsea incident the other night, both incidents are disgraceful and bring shame onto both clubs. Whether or not L Ricks you were involved, well done for the apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Ricks9 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Read and understood, no I was not involved in the picture uploaded. The guy who posted it, posted it after the game and did not enter the club house after. I've apologised on behalf of the club because I no the club won't tollirate being associated with that behaviour. The incident involving the spectator is and will be dealt with by us as a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I should also add that if you have an overly aggressive / abusive spectator, whether involved with your club or not, you should be dealing with it without waiting for the referee - ask them to leave - we have. They will drag you down and drop you into all sorts of trouble. Look at what happens to clubs who do not control crowds, play behind closed doors is a favourite, after stumping up a big wad of cash ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor61 Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Let me clear this up for you all. Your club is responsible for the behaviour of all spectators, players and any-one who enters your facility before, during, and after the match. That includes the ground, clubhouse and anywhere associated with your club. The referee has authority from the moment he/she enters the confines of your property, from the front gate until they leave. That includes the clubhouse, ground, car park, and anywhere else that constitutes your property. An unruly, foul mouthed, blasphemous spectator can be asked to leave the premises if asked to do so by the officials. You would be expected to escort that person from the ground, if they will not leave then you would be expected to call the police to have them removed. (and that has happened) Freedom of speech has never existed to the point where you can say, or put into print anything that is libellous, threatening or defamatory. Also if it is an un-truth. Whether the off- side was correct or not - is not up for debate .... it was given, the result will stand. What is debateable is whether the officials should have to have an escort off of the field, no, they should not. Should they be subject to abuse leaving the field, no, they should not. Should they be subject to abuse on a forum or a social media site, no they should not. I would have thought that by now people would realise that being a keyboard warrior does not protect you from the full force of the CCFA, where it will be going, or the police. That is where this probably will be going.....and so it should. Finally....NO, it is not "that's football" and is no different to the Chelsea incident the other night, both incidents are disgraceful and bring shame onto both clubs. Whether or not L Ricks you were involved, well done for the apology. While what you have just quoted is 100% correct Older. the " thats football" statement was in reference to the right or wrong offside decision going against the team. Not the person who made the offensive comments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Ricks9 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Spot on ray 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Fair enough razor, I read it as part of the first and second statement, I stand corrected by its author, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor61 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Spot on ray Lets hope it all put to bed now Lee! Another game for you to-night good luck mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor61 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Fair enough razor, I read it as part of the first and second statement, I stand corrected by its author, thank you. Your welcome Older! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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