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Older, you know much more about the club than I do, I'm sure. I know diddly squat if I'm honest. I just find it disheartening to read so many negative comments about the highest ranked side in the County. 

Everything you say above revolves around finance... around money! You won't get investors at this level, at least significant investors at that. You have to make do. If the whole of Cornwall (and I mean the whole of Cornwall) got behind Truro, they could be up there playing in the Football league... but that means the fans paying out of their own pocket. People just aren't willing to do so. We expect success instantly; we expect success from nothing. 

If Truro were to succeed, they need the whole County behind them. They haven't got that. So, in my opinion, they have done well to stay in the league. You can only work with what you've got.

Again, I reiterate the point that I don't know much about the club itself. If I was to read (and believe) everything that I read about TCFC on this forum, I am sure it would be nowhere near a true reflection on the club itself.

I've lived in Cornwall for twenty years, I've played football in the County (started at 16) for the last 14. I've not once seen anything in the community about Truro City Football Club. There's one problem right there for them that I know of without looking in. More needs doing in the community and more certainly needs doing on a PR front. But, I speak of what I see and heal not what I know.

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31 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

Bust a gut to support a club who owe thousands, built on debt and don't have a ground, who could go to the wall in five minutes on a whim of others - no thanks.

You all go bake your cakes - I'll keep watching the shenanigans.

You've become an institution on this forum Older 'The Victor Meldrew of local football'. Long may you continue to provide me with endless amusement,

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Never Dave. 

I made the point previously, saying that I am not a TCFC supporter. I play/ref on Saturday and have far too many commitments during the week. That is why you very rarely see me comment/view these threads. I've have very rarely had any input on this forum regarding TCFC. 

I made the point earlier on in the thread saying that I am an outsider, looking in. I still stand by that comment; to that end I'm not sure what you are getting at exactly?

My comments are based on my opinion from what I see on this forum; not what I know from external sources. I do however plan to visit the ground next season when I get the chance. But with work commitments (deployments), playing/reffing, league stuff etc, I doubt I will have any time.

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2 hours ago, B_D said:

You may have a valid point there...

Look at a post from May in this part of the forum... TCFC were labelled as a "disgrace" for not having a celebratory event for the ten year anniversary of winning the FA Vase. AFC Wimbledon won the FA Cup in the late 80's... do they mark that event every one-ten year(s) with an anniversary event? No. Why would you? Yes it was a fantastic achievement in the clubs history, but if you really feel the need to celebrate a Cup victory from a decade ago, it says a lot about the club. It makes absolute sense that TCFC didn't stage some sort of celebration. 

The same person who wrote that often bitches about the finances at Truro, yet then expects them to shell out on an anniversary event?!? Where is the sense in that?!? 

I just don't get it!

I never usually visit this part of the forum (I prefer the lower echelon), yet when I do I find myself getting pretty frustrated with the constant barrage of abuse hurled towards the most successful Cornish Club in the history of Cornish football... I reiterate my point, if you want them to succeed as a fan, put your money in your pocket. Buy some merchandise, get yourself and the wife a season ticket, bake a cake, submit 50% of your annual income... just stop bitching about it on a bloody forum.

Football is a business. The Premier League teams are the Tesco's, the Google's, the Amazon's etc Truro City are like the True Trend, the Trago Mills, the Jims Cash & Carry....  If you want your local team to succeed, invest in them. 

AFC Wimbledon did not win the FA Cup in 1988, in fact they never have. They weren't even around at the time. The Wimbledon team that did win the FA Cup moved lock stock and barrel to Milton Keynes and the Dons part of their name is the only link to their past. The replica of the trophy was given to AFC Wimbledon but the club formed in 2002 have never set the competition alight.

Truro may be playing at the highest level a Cornish club ever has but I wouldn't say they are the most successful club in the history of Cornish football.

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13 minutes ago, Willow Tree said:

AFC Wimbledon did not win the FA Cup in 1988, in fact they never have. They weren't even around at the time. The Wimbledon team that did win the FA Cup moved lock stock and barrel to Milton Keynes and the Dons part of their name is the only link to their past. The replica of the trophy was given to AFC Wimbledon but the club formed in 2002 have never set the competition alight.

Truro may be playing at the highest level a Cornish club ever has but I wouldn't say they are the most successful club in the history of Cornish football.

I googled that (obviously). My football knowledge is obviously as bad as my FA Cup winners history. I knew that a "Wimbledon" side won it.

Who would you say is the most successful club in Cornish history?!?

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18 minutes ago, B_D said:

I googled that (obviously). My football knowledge is obviously as bad as my FA Cup winners history. I knew that a "Wimbledon" side won it.

Who would you say is the most successful club in Cornish history?!?

Falmouth will always be the yardstick to my generation .....and they've had to sell their ground as well when trying to stay at the top level.

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7 minutes ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

Falmouth will always be the yardstick to my generation .....and they've had to sell their ground as well when trying to stay at the top level.

When I talk about success, I talk about the leagues in which the teams have played in. Have Falmouth played at a standard above the current Truro side? Maybe success is the wrong word, as one might say that a club with 100 Cup wins in the SWPL is more successful than a National league South side with 80 cup wins (if that makes sense). Genuine question btw, I don't know the answer to that. 

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1 hour ago, B_D said:

Never Dave.  

I asked out of curiosity because I am always amazed that Truro don't achieve bigger gates at evening games.

I say this because the club is playing at a high enough national league Step level that should attract football followers, but for various reasons (admittedly work commitment is one sometimes given) the club midweek attendances are no better than a Saturday when everyone are involved in their own club in the county. There are a lot of teams playing on a Saturday afternoon!

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I work every other evening :( The other days I have spare, I'm either at meetings, training, at games of my own or looking after my daughter (because my other half is at work) etc. I'm just too busy.

I am looking at seeing some of their pre-season games, I've also got a long leave period in which I hope to go and watch a game or two. 

The thing is, TCFC aren't going to make millions on the gates. What surprises me, I have no idea what their kit looks like. I know they play in white, that's about it. I have a vague idea what their badge looks like, it has bits of red in. The point I'm making is that I don't see many people walking around with club merchandise, I see nothing in the community regarding the club. I'm on a league committee but have never heard of our local big club wanting to get involved with community football. For me (again, an outsider with not a lot of knowledge on the club), I believe PR and media play a huge part in boosting reputations (it can also shatter them). I've been on the clubs Facebook page - very few updates ever posted on there. Nothing about their season tickets, upcoming friendlies etc. They've only had a small number of reviews... Is this an official page? The point I'm making, look at the Facebook page I administrate for the Trelawny League. It's been going less than a year, we have more people tha "like" our page, more people interacting with it and much more regular updates. This plays a huge part.

Anyway, I didn't come on here to pick faults in the club and talk about something I know nothing about. I just find it a little disheartening to see so much negativity on here towards the club, pretty much every day.

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Dave's right. Truro have no pull for potential new supporters. I rarely see games advertised, their chairman just seems interested in slagging off a group of supporters on social media - not enough goes into the media side of it. I'm constantly trying to plug matches on twitter, Facebook etc and we are in a field in the middle of nowhere. I don't see anything from Truro. 

How they run without a reserve of youth team is beyond me too! Surely to progress and gain stability they would need some kind of development in place? How do amateur teams up and down the County run a full supplement of youth football and many men's teams yet the top team in Cornwall can not? What a way that would be of gaining new supporters as well as potentially mold future first team players. 

I know most players are part time - but in my opinion they should be out getting into schools, coaching and many other things - similar to what the Cornish Pirates do. 

I'd love to see Truro progress. I love the idea of a professional team in Cornwall. It could go a long way in smashing the glass ceiling us Cornish folk often put over ourselves and it gives the youth a realistic target to aim for. 

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All the problems spoken about regarding,Truro City not being part of the community,having poor PR,and not having a Commercial manager,are because of one thing.

Chuck in the Reserve team ,youth set up's and Ladies team all being dumped by the Club,and you have the problems that surround this whole shambles.

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52 minutes ago, somersetspur said:

All the problems spoken about regarding,Truro City not being part of the community,having poor PR,and not having a Commercial manager,are because of one thing.

Chuck in the Reserve team ,youth set up's and Ladies team all being dumped by the Club,and you have the problems that surround this whole shambles.

Such a shame - as Cornwall's senior team they should be breaking down walls, setting benchmarks and being a model for the rest of us to follow and to aspire to. 

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1 hour ago, WendronOfficial said:

Such a shame - as Cornwall's senior team they should be breaking down walls, setting benchmarks and being a model for the rest of us to follow and to aspire to. 

Add to that a Social Club and Clubhouse,that is only opened for a couple of hours on a match day.

To think what that place used to be like.

SHAMBLES.

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2 hours ago, somersetspur said:

Add to that a Social Club and Clubhouse,that is only opened for a couple of hours on a match day.

To think what that place used to be like.

Would that be just before the club went into administration?

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7 hours ago, somersetspur said:

All the problems spoken about regarding,Truro City not being part of the community,having poor PR,and not having a Commercial manager,are because of one thing.

Chuck in the Reserve team ,youth set up's and Ladies team all being dumped by the Club,and you have the problems that surround this whole shambles.

According to 'contact the club' info Colin Bradbury is still the Press Officer which I would think also covers PR. however the position of Commercial Manager isn't as easy as many think, to sell the image sponsors 'require to invest' you first have to have an image to project. - We don't appear to have a commercial manager at this time - A start has to be made to build the clubs image but that has been tried, unfortunately for every step forward we appear to take two back. - 10 years or so ago the club had an army of volunteers but a succession of rebuffs has left them disillusioned, a mixture of supporters and administrators, the type of people every club needs. so what do we get?  we get B_D coming on here admitting he has no knowledge of the events leading to rifts within the club, if he did and was himself a victim he too would join the MOANERS he criticises. B_D's postings only act to fan the flames, perhaps he should award himself a red card,:SM_carton: Offside Ref.:)

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The sooner that those involved in Truro football club realise that very few, if any, people living outside of Truro are remotely interested in watching them the better. Cornwall is a parochial county and people only support their own town or village. Lovely idea that we shall feel compelled to watch them but should we all go and watch Truro cricket as well just because they are the biggest team in Cornwall? Not interested watching Ebbsfleet or any other non  league team let alone pay more than a tenner for the privilege 

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10 minutes ago, somersetspur said:

No,a bit further back than that.When Steve Massey was manager the first time,with players like Kirkup,Tallon,Tabb,etc.

As I said above Truro City had an 'army' of volunteers

Many of those were trained to NVQ standard for Crowd Control etc.

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1 hour ago, le boss said:

The sooner that those involved in Truro football club realise that very few, if any, people living outside of Truro are remotely interested in watching them the better. Cornwall is a parochial county and people only support their own town or village. Lovely idea that we shall feel compelled to watch them but should we all go and watch Truro cricket as well just because they are the biggest team in Cornwall? Not interested watching Ebbsfleet or any other non  league team let alone pay more than a tenner for the privilege 

Unusually sensible and on the money there le boss.

I have watched TCFC play ....when there is absolutely no local football on anywhere ...and that includes Helston (!)

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20 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

Falmouth will always be the yardstick to my generation .....and they've had to sell their ground as well when trying to stay at the top level.

Is that the old Asfield ground or the present Bickland ? No information released from the club to the Press, as far as I am aware? Is a new ground actually started being constructed ?

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1 hour ago, BIG AL said:

Is that the old Asfield ground or the present Bickland ? No information released from the club to the Press, as far as I am aware? Is a new ground actually started being constructed ?

Bickland for me ...and yes the new ground is presently under the early stages of construction.

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15 hours ago, MOUNTAINEER said:

According to 'contact the club' info Colin Bradbury is still the Press Officer which I would think also covers PR. however the position of Commercial Manager isn't as easy as many think, to sell the image sponsors 'require to invest' you first have to have an image to project. - We don't appear to have a commercial manager at this time - A start has to be made to build the clubs image but that has been tried, unfortunately for every step forward we appear to take two back. - 10 years or so ago the club had an army of volunteers but a succession of rebuffs has left them disillusioned, a mixture of supporters and administrators, the type of people every club needs. so what do we get?  we get B_D coming on here admitting he has no knowledge of the events leading to rifts within the club, if he did and was himself a victim he too would join the MOANERS he criticises. B_D's postings only act to fan the flames, perhaps he should award himself a red card,:SM_carton: Offside Ref.:)

Hi B_D,

I appreciate your "Like" endorsement  for the above posting accepting the latter part of it in the humorous manner it was intended, despite our opposite opinion on some of the matters raised, varying opinions keep these forums to the fore, It may be better at times if when there is a different viewpoint those on the fringe of what is being mentioned ask any questions about matters they are uncertain about - perhaps these forums need more discussion rather than occasional conflict.

I notice you are a referee, I imagine you do that with humour, those types of referee are rare these days but are after all amongst the better ones. I was at a game this season and the referee made a mistake and I voiced my opinion but before restarting play he ran to near where I stood and said "if I was where you are I would say the same" and winked, it was a lesser error (he realised he made) but it may have created an atmosphere within the game if he had changed his mind so allowed the game to flow. - The better side of football.

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1 hour ago, MOUNTAINEER said:

Hi B_D,

I appreciate your "Like" endorsement  for the above posting accepting the latter part of it in the humorous manner it was intended, despite our opposite opinion on some of the matters raised, varying opinions keep these forums to the fore, It may be better at times if when there is a different viewpoint those on the fringe of what is being mentioned ask any questions about matters they are uncertain about - perhaps these forums need more discussion rather than occasional conflict.

I notice you are a referee, I imagine you do that with humour, those types of referee are rare these days but are after all amongst the better ones. I was at a game this season and the referee made a mistake and I voiced my opinion but before restarting play he ran to near where I stood and said "if I was where you are I would say the same" and winked, it was a lesser error (he realised he made) but it may have created an atmosphere within the game if he had changed his mind so allowed the game to flow. - The better side of football.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion, how you voice that opinion is the important thing. I respect yours, as I do everyone else's. This forum is a fantastic platform for social interaction from all walks of football - Referees, players, spectators etc alike. But sometimes it can also be quite a nasty place. That's the bit I don't like.

I saw the humour to your post. I try to see the funny side in everything (where it can be found) :)

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If you do speak out, you get banned from the website , I have sent an email to PM about 10 days ago and tried to build bridges but as of yet no reply. I then tried FB sent a message to Mr N who read it but also failed to respond. So just now I tweeted the club and asked if i am banned?     GREAT PR  i must say.  

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13 hours ago, Mikeyburnsey said:

If you do speak out, you get banned from the website , I have sent an email to PM about 10 days ago and tried to build bridges but as of yet no reply. I then tried FB sent a message to Mr N who read it but also failed to respond. So just now I tweeted the club and asked if i am banned?     GREAT PR  i must say.  

Why do you need to build bridges.?

You get treated like s££t,but you still want to crawl back.

Think the Club have made thinks very clear,as far as you are concerned.

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